Rooster Hall Racing

• Origin Story – how did Johan Schwarz and Todd Brown get started in motorsports?
• Rooster Hall Racing – what’s its history, how has it come together. What’s in a name? The Significance of “Rooster Hall” 
• Guinness Book of World records for Longest Drift – 8hrs, 232.5 miles, with mid flight refueling in a BMW M5 
• In a previous DT episode we actually talked about the Tesla Plaid Record at VIR (On Grand) against the new Porsche Taycan. And we came to find out that Johan was the driver of that Tesla – let’s expand on this. 
• Jokingly you guys have a combined 114 years of racing between you, you might be the “oldest” in the SRO paddock, so let’s talk about your SRO experiences; and the series
• Future of the RHR team
• Thoughts on the reveal of the new BMW M4 GT4 – will you be upgrading/switching cars.

and much, much more!

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Crew Chief Brad: Walking through the paddock at any motorsports event affords you the ability to see a lot of really cool things.

Everything is designed to capture your attention and draw your eyes and ears to it from the fast looking cars with their colorful liveries and ear pleasing exhaust notes to the giant flags denoting the team garages. But this weekend one logo really stands out among the crowd, and that’s the giant red rooster emblazoned on the BMW M4 of rooster hall racing.

Crew Chief Eric: That’s right, Brad. Rooster Hall Racing traces its roots to 2002 with the purchase of a highly modified E30 M3. And today the team campaigns cars in both BMW CCA Club Racing and SRO America. Team owner Todd Brown and lead driver Johan Schwartz join us live to talk about supporting cars in both series, the history of Rooster Hall Racing and some great paddock stories.

So let’s jump back into our session at VIR. So welcome to BrakeFix, [00:02:00] Johan and Todd. Thank you. Thank

Johan Schwarz: you.

Crew Chief Eric: So like all good BrakeFix stories, we want to start out with the origin. So how did you guys get started in motorsports?

Johan Schwarz: Well, uh, I, I, I guess I can go first. My, uh, my love for motorsports has been, I remember when I was like five or six years old and I could name all the cars and I kind of felt bad for when somebody was high revving their engine because, you know, to me they had soul, right?

So why would you mistreat somebody, uh, a car like that? And then I, I Started really getting into the motorsports end of it and being from Denmark, it was rallying, rally sprints, closed course, yeah. The Joakim Kunen’s and the Steve Blomqvist and all those guys, they were just finishing off their careers, but that’s kind of when I started catching up, watching.

Then I started racing on a local dirt road course, which was known as rally sprint, but with chump or champ like cars, you know, very low. But for everybody to go out there and race, there was a claimer rule. And [00:03:00] then, uh, it just went from there into Formula Ford. And then I started actually racing go karts for seat time.

So I went into the cars first before I went to the go karts because my parents didn’t really know anything about motorsports. So they had no idea where to support me and how to get me involved in it. So it was all driven by myself. And then I just drove whatever I could came to the States in the early nineties, back in Denmark.

I’d seen a little lap timing system when I was racing in Denmark. Formula Fords that would give an instant on board lap time, come to find out it was a Danish product, brought it here to the States and uh, had a, uh, a contact that had good contact with Hendrick Motorsports. I installed it in Ricky Rutz and Kenny Schrader’s car.

So all of a sudden I opened my eyes up to NASCAR and like, this is what I want to do. I had come to find out I had the wrong accent for that one, especially back then. But I had a blast, got to know a lot of people, slowly kind of got myself into the road racing part here in the States. Raced a lot of SCCA and NASA.

Then it grew from there, got together with some people doing [00:04:00] some longer endurance races, and then started racing SRO in 2013. Basically an SRO, there’s been a few years I was in transition from one class to another, and then been there in a sense and raced a little bit of IMSA too, and races a lot of, uh, endurance races and also race for a team out of Florida for the, uh, SCCA runoffs.

We’re trying to qualify for that. So I try to still race as I believe till this point here this year, there’s four weekends I’ve been off. All the other weekends I’ve been on a racetrack. So I enjoyed a lot with the support of my family, right? Did you mention a championship or two? Oh yeah, and then, you know, with Rooster Hole, I was going to let you do that, talking about the history of Rooster Hole, right?

Then we got together in 2018, started campaigning at 240, one of the factory built race cars in the TC class, placed third in the championship there, won, yeah, won three or four races, and then in 2019, again with West Virginia on the [00:05:00] carb. One of the most beautiful paint schemes I’ve seen out there. I loved it.

And, uh, we won, I think, uh, nine out of fourteen races, something like that, and championship. And we got second in the, um, standings amongst, at the rating of all BMW drivers in the world. And Rooster Haul is a team, I believe, got third, so we won the championship in 19, and I’d won a previous, uh, championship in 2015 in Touring Car as well.

That’s kind of my racing background. It’s been my blood and my mom is here from Denmark watching this weekend and she still doesn’t understand what’s going on and how this thing happens and you know, what are all those buttons for on the steering wheels and you know, all that. So it’s fun to explain that to her.

She’s just watching it and all, but it’s a lot of fun to have her. My sister is here from Spain as well. So we have a whole family get together. My two kids are here watching as well.

Crew Chief Brad: That’s great. And I, I, hearing your origin story, what we’re going to talk about later makes a lot of sense, you know, when we talk about your, your longest drift, [00:06:00] if you’ve got rally, uh, rally sprint and rally X experience in your, it all

Todd Brown: comes

Crew Chief Brad: Who hasn’t?

I did.

Johan Schwarz: I was born and raised on a farm, so that’s also how I kept practice, bought old beat up cars on the harvested fields in the summer, set up a rally course, obviously, and my friend and I were timing each other, had a little in competition, and then when the winter came in, the little two acre pond that we had, we did the same thing, put studded tires in the front, ball tires in the back, and we had a blast oversteering the whole time with a front wheel drive car.

Crew Chief Eric: So that’s a great segue to Todd to talk about his motor sports background and the creation of Rooster Hall Racing, its history, you know, what’s in the name, the significance of Rooster.

Todd Brown: So mine goes back to age five or six as well. I was born in 62 and I woke up to cars in 1968. I can tell you, when I moved from Cincinnati, Ohio, where I grew up, to Virginia, where I spent the rest of my life, I can tell you every car on my [00:07:00] street, even today, and what year it was.

I had every Hot Wheels car made from 1968 to 1970. My parents knew that I was just this car nut. Car, car, car, car, car. So in 1971, my mother, she takes me to see this movie called Le Mans, with Steve McQueen. Um, Oh, this would be great for Todd. I think it was rated R, maybe. She takes me to the movie, we walk out of that, and all I want to do is race cars.

You know, at this point I’m eight or nine years old. The last thing my mother ever wanted her son to do. was race cars because in the movie they all crash and burn up. My mother did not see me race until I was 53 years old.

Oh man.

Todd Brown: And the only reason she came out is because my son was in the same race.

Moved forward many years. It was, I was 32 years old. I started going to the track at Summit Point. They called Friday at the track and I went there for five years and I became an instructor for eight and during that whole [00:08:00] time I was racing go karts like y’all on here. And then I made the decision to make the plunge into BMW club racing.

And I’ve been doing that now for 18 years, I guess, formally won a couple of national championships there. Although my son is still faster than I am.

Crew Chief Eric: That’s how you want it to be, right?

Todd Brown: Exactly. But that’s not the way it all is. And in the meantime, talked about this a little bit off a microphone, but my son Sean is one.

Twice the world championship in soapbox derby racing, which is a lot more car control than you would ever think Because you follow the crown of the road and you follow the cones and inch off the cones the entire way down the track And the world championships are a little different and there’s crosswinds and all kind of things But that was really neat ESPN had a documentary on us through that.

I guess this was about 789 years ago I was looking for a place where I could maybe expand my car collection because we had kind of grown out of our garage. I have five cars in a three car garage. [00:09:00] I was at a restaurant, saw this free real estate publication, and this shop was for sale. Forty minutes from my house, but 15 minutes from my wife’s parents house.

Hmm,

Todd Brown: and it was just weird enough that no one would buy it except for me maybe. It was a 5, 000 square foot garage with a 1, 200 square foot nice apartment on it.

Johan Schwarz: That’s every guy’s dream, right? Yeah.

Todd Brown: So this guy built this, he was a single guy, his girlfriend lived next door in the property next door, who happened to be a realtor, and he built this for his car collection and for his RV.

Unfortunately, he got cancer and died, and so we bought it from the estate from his girlfriend, the realtor. And she said, well, the name of the place is Rooster Hall. You can keep it. You can do whatever you want. Just wanted to let you know that. And I said, you know what? We’ll keep that name. Tip of the cap to him.

Three years later, or seven years ago, we decided to start a real race team. We [00:10:00] said, here we go. And you know, what are we going to name the team? And sorry for all the guys that name it after themselves. I wasn’t into that. Didn’t want Todd Brown Racing or TBR or whatever it might be. One of the guys on my team said, why don’t you call it Rooster Hall Racing?

I said, you know, that’s just wacky enough. That’s cool enough. We’ll make it around the rooster. You know, we got the biggest rooster in the paddock. That’s for darn sure. And on the side of

Crew Chief Eric: P. G. version of that. The P. G., that’s

Todd Brown: correct. That’s right. Listeners,

Crew Chief Eric: you can put that together yourselves. Yes.

Todd Brown: That’s the basic story on how Rooster Haul got started and how our racing deal got started.

I was the owner of the trailer. Before Johan came aboard, we had Anthony Magagnoli as a driver. And Anthony, we won crew of the year that year. The next year, with Johan, we won rookie of the year.

Johan Schwarz: No, that was Anthony.

Todd Brown: Oh, it was Anthony. Anthony won rookie of the year. Then we won crew of the year, the first year with Johan.

Sorry about that. And then [00:11:00] we won the championship. And then this year, I’m going to turn 60 years old this year. And I said, You know, I don’t have a whole lot of years left of high quality driving. Let’s do it, Johan. Let’s go to Sprint X. Went out and bought a GT4, M4 GT4. Ended up buying yet another, I had an M2 CSR, bought another one, another one of those when Colin Garrett’s family and Colin came to me, I know his father, known his father for 35 years.

He’s an up and coming NASCAR driver, and they said we’re looking for him to get more road course stuff, good marriage, and we’re sitting here right after Colin’s win here at VIR. Congratulations to Colin, by the way. Yeah, thank you. Yeah, great

Johan Schwarz: race.

Todd Brown: He’s a consummate professional, and he could really go places.

He’s only 21. Yeah, he’s fast. He’s got the pull. And he listens. Yeah. He listens to Vijay Mehrzaran, his coach, and to Johan, his coach here. He really absorbs everything they say. And that’s a true student.

Crew Chief Eric: So you guys are campaigning two cars, an M2 and [00:12:00] TCX, which is now currently, if you’ll, as we talked to Jim Jordan in a previous episode, is comprised mostly of BMWs, hoping to change that.

Right now it’s all BMWs.

Todd Brown: Right. Yeah.

Crew Chief Eric: He always puts an asterisk there. Yeah, he does. It’s going to change in the future. Yeah. We’re going to see how that goes, so we won’t talk about futures. And the second car is in Sprint X, where both of you switch off and drive the car in a 60 minute race. All GT4

Johan Schwarz: cars.

Yeah, all GT4. Which I believe they have 40 of this weekend.

Todd Brown: Yeah,

Johan Schwarz: 40. Big

Todd Brown: field. Man, popular class. For example, this evening, 4. 05pm, I will drive the first half, hand it over to Johan. Tomorrow, he will drive the first half, and hand it over to me.

Crew Chief Brad: Well, we’re looking forward to seeing how that race turns out.

Todd Brown: Yeah.

Crew Chief Brad: If you’re driving the first half, are other teams, I’m assuming it’s split up with, you can correct me if I’m wrong, but is it a pro am kind of series?

Todd Brown: This is interesting, and I’ll start it, he can finish it. We’re am am because of [00:13:00] our age Okay at a certain age. I don’t know. It’s 50 or 55. What is it 50 50 you get knocked down One rating one rating if you’re a silver pro when you pass 50, you’re gonna become a bronze If you’re a gold or platinum, you get knocked down, one.

Just because your reflexes, they say, aren’t as quick as they once were. It’s probably true. My son’s, again, probably quicker than mine. We can benefit from that in the AM side, because he was a pro. But technically is, technically is not now because we’re both bronze drivers.

Johan Schwarz: So we’ll be competing in the AM AM.

Then there’s the Pro AM championship, right, where there is a silver rated or higher together with a bronze rated. That’s the pro, and then the silver class, which is both silver drivers. So, so there’s in a sense three races within that race, all racing GT4 cars, but also having their own little internal battles in

Crew Chief Brad: there.

Our listeners are about to find out that Johan, you have two [00:14:00] records under your belt that we know of. Yeah. Um, well let’s start with the, probably the most famous one, which is your longest drift record. It’s in the Guinness Book of World Records. We looked it up, it was 8 hours, 232. 5 miles. Correct. Tell us about that, what led to you wanting to do that, other than just being a drifter in your, in your entire experience.

Tell us about the refueling, how did that go? We saw the videos, we saw, from our perspective, it looked kind of interesting, but Yeah. How is it from your perspective? The

Johan Schwarz: start of it was, I used to teach down at the BMW school down in Spartanburg, right next to the BMW factory. I was leading a class, during lunch somebody asked me, because we go to the skid pad and learn skid control, and if people are good at that, we also let them drift, you know, see how they can keep the car sideways.

So as instructors, we demonstrate that, and then we go out of the drift, and then it’s the student’s turn. So during lunch, this guy, and I wish I knew who it was, I remember who it was, because he’s the one that started all this. Really, he deserves a lot of credit. So, [00:15:00] um, he asked me, how long do you take a class?

I could go without spinning out in the drift. I was like, well, I don’t know. I’ve never tried. And then I went home that night to look at Guinness and see if there was a record for the longest drift. And there was, and I’m like, and I sent a email to Guinness about the rules for that, you know, what parameters we had.

And it said nothing about that the skid pad could be wet. You know, so I didn’t want to ask them, can the skid pad be wet? Will it still count? I read between the lines, I submitted for it, and that was in 2013. So I did that basically on my own, using the facility there, in the F10 BMW M5 back then, and no refueling, just filled it up.

And then we had a sponsor. I put sponsorships together that all went to charity, the BMW charity, conjunction with a golf tournament down there, and then the M school that’s down there. So I tried to create [00:16:00] that triangle of partners that were involved and went 51 miles and the internet blew up. We made our own little video about it.

It got over a million views. I remember coming out of the movie theater after the event and we went in to check how many views there was and it went up by a hundred thousand by every 10, 15 minutes because Yahoo sports. taking it in and other and BMW actually took notice to that all the attention. It was great.

It was fun to do. Didn’t think I was going to do it again. Then the new M5 comes out, which now is an all wheel drive car and the purest M owner. M enthusiast and M car can only be rear wheel drive. So then BMW corporate now took the opportunity to say, well, if you turn this knob in the car, you can go from all wheel drive to two wheel drive.

And if you want to, you can drift it for a long time. So Guinness now because of this wet record that I set back then, they now established, okay, we have a dry record and we have a wet [00:17:00] record. You have a window of eight hours to see how long you can drift. And basically. The clock starts and then it stops.

And then you can stop and change tires or fuel and eat lunch, whatever you want to do. But we wanted to make it continuous, just like the first record. And to make it rival, in order for us to continue drifting for 8 hours or 6 hours, whatever, we had to refuel. We had to basically refuel every hour and a half, every 45, hour, 45 minutes.

And so that was the rival component of it. So I go out, obviously put it in two wheel drive start and BMW’s goal was to beat the old record. Now Toyota had it, you know, so there was back and forth fun rivalry and they just wanted to beat it and say, okay, but I was, I was internally set on, prepared myself physically with all the right things to be in the car for eight hours.

But not dehydrate myself, you get the idea. Physically

Crew Chief Eric: or in the car. Correct.

Johan Schwarz: I go [00:18:00] out and I start drifting and we had two tanks in the car. The main tank which BMW comes with and then the tank on top of it which was the one we were going to refuel into and then pump from that tank into the main tank.

So in order for us not to have any Anything happened with the V Fuel in the beginning, we wanted to beat the record. We had now three hours worth of fuel and that would allow us now to go for the hundred miles. I go there and it gets, it gets a little monotonous at the time. Still have to throttle and steer all the time, but you know, I mean the concentration level.

So I actually had my phone hooked up to Bluetooth and, uh, made some phone calls. Some of the BMW folks that were involved, right, and it was so funny to hear them pick up the phone. Are you supposed to be drifting right now? So, uh, and I called the people that were involved in the previous events as sponsors because, you know, they kind of started all this and helped it, thanked them for that.

So, and then after the three hours, then that’s when the [00:19:00] excitement obviously started, you know, because During that time, up till the event, we had connected with a guy hanging out the window in the old F 10, right? There’s now a guy, his name was Matt Butts, and a guy called Matt Mullins was driving that fuel car, hanging out the window to connect.

You have to turn it half a turn to lock it in, then the fuel pump has to go on to transfer the fuel into the, uh, to my accelerator tank and then have to disconnect. But we come to find out in our practice that when I am doing that, to connect, I And I have to then increase the RPMs to keep the angle that makes the engine because there’s no air coming in, right?

So it’s very hard on the whole drivetrain and engine. I had to look at it, keep my eye on the oil temp and I knew when it was going to go into lip mode. If that thing goes into lip mode being connected, it’s like taking your foot off the gas and it was going to straighten up and Met, but that’s hanging there.

Yeah. Crush, you know, I mean

Crew Chief Brad: crushed. Yeah.

Johan Schwarz: He had, I don’t know what waiver he signed or . What attorney [00:20:00] signed off on this project back then and BM BMW say, yeah, go ahead and do that. It’s not dangerous at all. No, for sure. So he was certainly the guy that was gonna be the meat and sandwich. Right. So I had the authority to override whenever there was enough fuel in the car and we had to disconnect.

We did that five times throughout the process. Where two times we were just about to connect and we were starting to increase the temperature. I figured we could only stay connected for maybe 10 seconds. It was not worth the risk. So then we would in a sense not hook up and I would kind of increase my speed again to cool down the engine to go for another refuel.

And then at one point I would say maybe six hours in and the guy from Guinness, you know, he’s there counting laps, you know, he’s like. This is not, you know, I’ve used a guy in five minutes or something like that or watermelons. And so he’s like, okay. So I get the radio call from the BMW person and said, you know, you can stop now if you want.

We got the record. I said, you know what? I’m [00:21:00] out here for all eight hours. Sorry. You know, because we don’t know if this has got to be another opportunity. So I want to put the test to somebody to go out and beat it. So we stayed for eight hours, did the record and it also blew up. Up and now corporate obviously took it in and, and really made a big deal out of it.

I went to a dealership not too long ago and they’re still playing the same video you probably watched in the dealership and everybody that gets recruited into BMW on the mechanical side, when they go into training and come in the first time they show that video to, for them to get excited about the brand.

So it’s kind of neat to be part of that. And again, it was started by that guy that raised his hand in that class and said, how long do you think you could

Crew Chief Brad: Yeah, and according to the video, you didn’t just beat the record. You annihilated it. Yeah, we did.

Todd Brown: Yeah, we did. And that was my goal. So a lot of folks know us.

Through that in a rooster haul because of Johan question. I get is Johan How in the world did you have to go to [00:22:00] the bathroom?

Johan Schwarz: I know Yeah, I get that and I do I get that all the time That is you know, that’s the one that’s on top of mind of everybody Right? And, uh, so they’re a little, you know, when they raise their hand, and I just say, just like the astronauts do it.

And then they can look it up on the internet how the astronauts do it. And that’s how I did it. And I did that all on my own because my goal was to be out there for eight hours. And he’s eating cookies and crackers. Yeah, well, I wasn’t, so my diet was obviously water to stay hydrated. And then I was eating what, uh, the bicyclist, you know, that does, uh, the Tour de France.

So, it was not a non solid diet, because the other one, I wasn’t quite born.

Crew Chief Eric: But you have another record under your belt, and we talked about this on a previous drive through. through news episode. And it’s very fortunate that we’re here talking to you at VIR today because you hold the record for the fastest lap in an [00:23:00] EV in the Tesla plan.

And we actually, again, we talked about this on a previous episode, and this was to take away the record from Porsche in the take hand. We found out that you were the driver of that vehicle. And we want to talk to you about that experience. When you think about driving the EVs, you know, the evolution as we call it, or the EV revolution, the future of racing with EVs, stuff like that.

So let’s get your take. on that hot lap here at V. I. R.

Johan Schwarz: There was a super exciting project. Carmine, which is, um, the guy that had the car and he’s got a shop here in North Carolina. Him and I got to be friends when I was doing some shock development for Ohlins for their club racing. And we met each other.

He had the BMW. I was test driving for Ohlins. And then we just stayed connected. Next thing you know, they put on the event here for, to set the, the record. And that was for the Grand Course. Yeah. Yeah. So that is kind of like the, the Nordschleife, right? Uh, for, for the U S car and driver is the one that comes in and does it all the time.

So our goal was to go in and [00:24:00] beat the Porsche record that had carbon brakes, right? That had really cool suspension. I believe they have a two speed transmission as well, so they can really work in the right torque range. And it was kind of a last minute deal. We didn’t really have any, we had 300 tread wear tires, so not nothing, not even 200, not even 200.

You did modify the

Crew Chief Eric: brakes

Johan Schwarz: Pads. Oh, okay. No, no. The calipers too? Not the calipers, but the rotors. Rotors, okay. But that does come on, Tesla does offer a carbon option. But other than that, the vehicle was stock. Completely stock. Wow. Yeah, completely stock. Really the only electrical vehicle I had driven was somebody I had instructed that got a Tesla, the non plaid, this is maybe five years ago.

He’s like, I want you to drive it, I want you to feel the acceleration. And I remember I punched out, he put it in ludicrous mode. I punched it and I really, I was like, I was taken back. The acceleration was amazing, right? Have you

Todd Brown: all been in Ludacris? Yeah. I have not, no. It is, it is life changing. [00:25:00] Yeah.

Crew Chief Eric: Yeah, it’s like being in a top shelf dragster.

Almost, yeah. Yeah. And if

Todd Brown: you don’t put your head back, it’ll put it back

Johan Schwarz: for you. Oh, it’ll put it back. Right. I’m like, kind of excited about it, but also a little bit nervous. Am I gonna get that sensation out here at the track, especially with a thousand horsepower? on this plaid go out and run it kind of, you know, 5, 000 pounds.

I can feel it’s heavy. The brakes are working pretty good, but I am also feeling the pedal getting a little long because they’re generating some serious heat. And this is a dual motor

Crew Chief Eric: Tesla, right? So four wheel drive, basically.

Johan Schwarz: Yeah, I believe that has actually three motors. It has one for the front axle.

And two in the rear, one for each rear tire. Acting as a diff, basically. Correct. Yeah. And I mean, when I heard a thousand horsepower, right? I mean, it, it, that’s a, that’s a drag racer that sits there and lopes on the cam, right? Yeah. That has that kind of horsepower. Go out, kind of get used to it. I mean, I was amazed, 5, 000 pounds.

You know, it did very well. I got on the curbs, suspension absorbed that very well, too. You know, kind of [00:26:00] known, trying to see what ideal line, again, our goal was to beat the record. Kind of get an idea. The idea about fuel consumption, reading the display for when I have the power and when I’m overheating the battery, the conclusion was I basically had one lap with full power.

And then it starts going into where the battery heats up and all that. I still have amazing speed, but I will not be able to go faster. So it’s Everything you got on one lap. And then we had laid out logistically to go and charge the batteries in South Boston. There’s a supercharger there. So in between sessions, we boogied in there, sat there, you know, 40 minute, charge the thing up, go back again, set ourselves up, you know, slow lap out, get some heat in the tires, and then one hot lap and then cool it down and then back to the, so I basically had a total of five laps throughout that day, long

Crew Chief Eric: day for five laps,

Johan Schwarz: long day, but it was fun, right?

The whole logistic. The whole logistical component of it, of going to South Boston, being [00:27:00] back in time when we were up again and all that, was really fun. And if you see

Todd Brown: the video, I think it’s turn 9? No, it’s up to the S’s. Up to the S’s? Yeah. Oh my gosh. Yeah. He gets sideways. And his steering wheel is almost at full lock, and he comes back, and this car doesn’t have any aero.

Crew Chief Eric: Well, and that’s the funny part about when we reviewed the article, when it came out and everything, my, uh, my sister, who’s one of the other hosts on the drive thru, she goes, Did you see the part of the video where he almost bins it?

Johan Schwarz: I know. And so, the cool thing about this whole thing is, the lap before I did the faster lap, I’d already beaten the record, so I had that.

So I’m like, you know what, I’m gonna try to send it up through the S Send it. Yeah. And see what happens. And I obviously said it a little too hard, and I’m remembering when I got locked to one side, I’m like, I’m not sure how this is. Could be interesting. This could either go really viral or I’m gonna try to obviously keep it on track.

And then it goes the other, you know, [00:28:00] basically creates a tank slapper. Right. So when we look at the data from the other lap, I did lose about six or seven tenths by that. But then I gained up elsewhere because I was still like determined when I caught it. I’m like, I still got it. Let’s see what we got.

And then beat it on a little bit further on that lap. So that’s why that lap made it right. And obviously the whole exciting part that everybody has been emailing and texting me about is when I’m sideways. Did you see I still hit my apexes even though I was sideways?

Crew Chief Eric: It comes from drifting the BMW. So that said, I’ve also coached some HPD folks with Teslas.

I’ve driven one as well. I came away from the car going, It handles like a 911. That’s what I kept thinking. So I’m wondering if your impression was the same and what your thoughts are of the handling of the Tesla’s and do they have a Future in let’s say even amateur motorsports.

Johan Schwarz: Yeah, you know, I think you know a lot of manufacturers I mean, I think the statement the big statement is the GM, right?

What’s [00:29:00] that, you know in two or three years they got their goal is to be all electrical So the commitment is obviously there from the manufacturers as a purist fortunate enough to drive that Ford 944 that I drive an SCCA in the STU class and you know, it sits there and I the KM and doesn’t get to life before 6, 000 RPMs, right?

So I think those days are slowly going away where the electrical is going to take over and you see it in Europe, they now have the TC cars that are basically all there with electrical motors and. Going extremely fast. Formula

Crew Chief Brad: E.

Johan Schwarz: Formula E, you know, it will take maybe some time. You see the the two person drive, you know, where I think Hamilton owns a team and, you know, they race out in the desert, right?

Dakar, right? Yeah.

Todd Brown: Yeah. No, it’s not Dakar. It’s a, it’s an EV off road series. Yeah.

Crew Chief Eric: I’m thinking about the Audi Dakar. Yeah.

Johan Schwarz: But I think that they also had a electrical vehicle that race in da car, right? Mm-Hmm. . So [00:30:00] it’s interesting that the ones that made the, uh, the name for the diesels, right. Which was Audi vw, and then they got a little trouble then, then they immediately went to the EV route.

Right. They had

Crew Chief Brad: a little bit of

Johan Schwarz: trouble. Yeah. Right. A little bit of trouble. As a matter of

Todd Brown: fact, there’s a great story behind that. Yeah. When, when you guys have a chance, so. Our car was sponsored by West Virginia University for two years. Dr. Scott Wayne is the head of the Formula SAE department. Each year, two students would come on to our team and be integrated, and we’d find them jobs in motorsports.

Integrated for the team throughout the season? Yeah. And it was a great program. It was awesome. Well, he was the one that found it out. Yeah. And I got the whole story directly from him. Yeah. That’s where Dieselgate

Crew Chief Eric: starts. That’s where it started. That’s where

Todd Brown: it started. And he started to prove how good clean diesel was.

And it kind of backfired.

Yeah, it’s a fun story. for another episode.

Johan Schwarz: It’s certainly a story, and maybe he even wants to tell [00:31:00] about this story. So,

Crew Chief Eric: let’s, let’s touch on one thing, Johan. So, the biggest drawback to the EVs right now is probably the weight, right? Weight and range, I mean. And I think the other thing I hear from a lot of people to your kind of underlying point about your 944, etc.,

is there’s no sound. You don’t get that loping, you don’t get that acceleration, that build up, it’s just power and plateau, right? That’s the thing. way right now. Are you sold yet? I mean,

Johan Schwarz: uh, you know, I, I would, and I’ve been thinking about this, especially if, so I go to Denmark once a year and racing the streets of Copenhagen and they had the electrical touring cars over there.

And I’m like, if there ever is an opportunity where that comes over here, I will try to see if I can’t get to drive one of those cars and be involved in that series. Because I think there’s such a push from the manufacturers to go that route. That you would have big support for that.

Todd Brown: You may have the hybrid version of racing, which is in a lot of forms now.

I mean, Formula 1 is in many respects hybrid. You look at Le Mans too, WEC, right? Yeah. So, you know, we’ll go [00:32:00] that route likely first before we’ll go all EV because you don’t want to see a car lightning fast at the beginning of the race and substantially slower You get into that conversation

Crew Chief Eric: about balance of power too, right?

How do you let that take hand against a Corvette, right? It just, it doesn’t work. It

Johan Schwarz: doesn’t. And what’s interesting is what I was impressed. I mean, the little whining and all that kind of was, it was pretty cool to be inside that whining and just hearing the air. But then I, uh, somebody took a video of the car coming by on the outside and all you hear is that wind moving and I thought that was actually a pretty cool sound because you don’t normally hear that because it’s overwhelmed by the engine.

Todd Brown: At the beginning of that video, he comes by, all you hear is this whoosh. It looks like the car’s in fast motion, like they sped up the film, but they didn’t. Yeah. It’s that blasted fast. We were

Johan Schwarz: going, I think, 155 or something like going into turn two, turn one, right? They can fly.

Crew Chief Brad: And then to that point, I think Tesla tried to start an electric series.

So they were looking for drivers a couple [00:33:00] of years ago to start an electric series. I don’t know about that. I know

Johan Schwarz: Jaguar made like a really sharp looking SUV that they were going to race as a high port series in conjunction with Formula E. Yeah. I don’t know how that was perceived or not. Yeah. Yeah.

Crew Chief Brad: But moving on a little bit, you guys earlier joked that you have a combined experience of 114 years racing between the two of you.

Todd Brown: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, 114 years of life, of life, of age, of

Crew Chief Brad: racing, 114 years of age between you two. Right, right, right. So outside of age. Todd

Todd Brown: is 85. Todd is 85. So what we think, we’re not sure, but.

Just kind of putting two and two together, we think we may have that label here at the track. So again, another record. Yes, right. The oldest two drivers combined in SRO, in the United States, right?

Crew Chief Brad: So let’s talk about SRO and your experiences here. What drew you [00:34:00] to race with SRO? Why should more people look to join the SRO series?

Todd Brown: First of all, it’s sprint racing. That’s what

Crew Chief Eric: the SR stands for?

Todd Brown: No. It’s Stephane Rattel. Well, first of all, that’s where I cut my teeth, without question, in BMW Club Racing. We’ve had hour and a half races, but they’re normally 25 to 40 minutes. Let me tell you that’s enough to wear you out. Okay, but I believe from a fan’s point of view, it’s much better to watch a 40 minute race or maybe an hour as opposed to a four hour race.

You lose your attention a bit. I know I’m a giant motor. I’m famous for falling asleep in the middle of a NASCAR race and waking up either right before or right after it ended. I think the sprint side of things is very attractive to me and to the watching audience or listening audience perhaps.

Johan Schwarz: You know, also because, you know, there are two professional sports car series in the U.

S., right? There’s SRO and [00:35:00] there’s IMSA. And if you want to go into pro racing, there is one of those two to pick from. And SRO is catering a little more to make it, you know, if you can call it more cost effective. There is obviously no such thing as cheap racing, right? But it is a little more cost effective than to run IMSA because there’s no fuel stops.

But they still have the component of the endurance, but making a shorter race. So that’s why Todd and I are racing on a team together. We are a two driver team, but we don’t have to have all the fuel rigs, the manpower to fuel, the manpower to change tires and all that. So the cost is obviously not there, but the excitement of being two drivers in a car is there playing at, in a field where all the cars are, by definition should be equal, right?

That’s what makes it appealing. You know, it’s hard to find that anywhere else. So if you want to go longer races, then MCEL And when we

Todd Brown: started it, we started in touring car. Yeah. In TC and the [00:36:00] BMW M235, which became the M240. IR, R stands for racing factory race car. There was a place for that here. And there wasn’t a place for it in many other places, and that, I thought that was the best car for the money in the world.

Because, you know, my club race car, I’ve got a lot more money in that than I would have in the TC car, and it’s a 20 year old car. You pile money into these things, that’s what, that’s what it is.

Johan Schwarz: And then also the professional component, which the coverage of it, so that obviously, Uh, gave us some leverage and the exposure for Miss Virginia and exposing the team to the pro side because, you know, you go here and look in the paddock, right?

I mean, people are up on scales, the wheels are off, you see the string on there. So it really becomes competitive, not just on the track, but also in the garage, right? And when we got that competitive DNA in us, Hey, can we play at this field? And let’s see how I don’t like to lose it. Putt, putt, [00:37:00] exactly. You know,

Crew Chief Eric: that’s exactly.

And to your point, I know jokingly around the paddock, IMSA is referred to as an air quotes, the other series, but you know, there’s a lot of fanfare and a lot of pomp and circumstance when you go over there and it’s, you know, they draw huge crowds, a lot of it’s backed by, let’s say NASCAR and other places.

It’s owned by NASCAR. Yeah. Based on the tracks they go to, et cetera. But you come here and you, you quickly remember.

Todd Brown: It’s a little bit more grassroots, but not grassroots. Right,

Crew Chief Eric: exactly. It’s a beautiful blend of the two. And it’s enjoyable to watch you guys out there running together. The multi class racing, for me, is fantastic.

I’ve always enjoyed it. That’s what draws me to WEC and IMSA and everything. So, again, congratulations. And I’m a big IMSA

Todd Brown: fan. Yeah. I am. And, you know, I was going to run this next January in an LMP3 car. I was given great advice. Todd, if you’re going to do this, stop your sports car racing six months before and just do the LMP3.

Because the downforce cars, it’s a [00:38:00] completely different mindset. To relearn,

Crew Chief Eric: yeah.

Todd Brown: The faster you go, the more stick you have. And I did two test sessions with the LMP3. I spun five times here and at Road Atlanta when I was going around slow turns. Because you think it would have stick, and it doesn’t. Now it’s

Johan Schwarz: mechanical grip.

Yeah. You know, now it’s back to where it was before, with a, with a normal car, whereas in the fast corners, now you have the aero grip, so it’s that transition back and forth.

Todd Brown: So we, we decided to do this, and we may, we’re talking about it, we may do the, the series just the day before the 24, down there in Daytona next year, with the car that we have here.

Johan Schwarz: Yeah, with the Michelin Tire Challenge. Is

Todd Brown: that the Roar before the

Crew Chief Eric: 24? No, it’s the

Todd Brown: Michelin Tire Challenge. And

Crew Chief Eric: actually, I think that’s a great segue into talking about the future of Rooster Hall Racing. So, what does the next couple of years look like for you guys?

Todd Brown: That’s a great question. I just retired from my real job, if you will.[00:39:00]

I own an investment firm for

Johan Schwarz: And Todd was very good at it, so he could retire early. Yeah.

Crew Chief Eric: At 85 years old. Yeah.

Todd Brown: That’s the only way we do that math. So, it’s, it is an expensive sport. At a certain point you’ve got to treat it as a business. And if you can’t make money, or, not lose a lot, you might have to hang it up.

There’s a whole lot of teams that have come and gone, but we had to take a year off during COVID because we didn’t have sponsorship. Now we got sponsorship with Colin and his team and some stuff that we’ve got because I mean it cost and I’ll say it pretty openly. It costs about a quarter of a million dollars to run that TC car a year.

I’ve done pretty well in life, but I just can’t afford to spend a quarter of a million dollars every year on letting somebody else drive my car. And it’s about that same amount in my car. There’s a half a million dollars. These teams that have these GT [00:40:00] three cars, there’s some deep pockets somewhere because you know, there’s a million dollars a pop a car or more in some cases.

So this is a very expensive sport and it’s gotta be. Treat it as a business. And I think my goal is to do this until I’m 70 for 10 more years. And then we’ll see where it goes from there. You have to have goals in life. And that’s what drives me. You know, again, I’m 60 in a few months starting my professional racing career now.

Holy crap. That’s, that’s late in life. Now I’ve had a personal trainer for 12 years just for racing. She comes to my house. I have a gym in my home. She comes to my house and I used to go to Gold’s gym. When I retired, I put a gym in my house and she works my tail off. Now, could I eat a little bit better?

We all could, but I’m in pretty darn good shape for my age. You have to to stay up with these 20 some year olds. Again, our reflexes get a little slower. Muscle reaction gets a little slower. [00:41:00] I want to race for at least five more years and I wouldn’t mind 10 years. And then we’ll see where it goes from there.

We had three cars by the way, in 2019, and then one of our drivers had a very bad accident in a club race and had to retire from racing. So we went down to two. We now have two. I see us with three cars in the future, maybe four, but I will tell you at a certain level, it’s managing people and you’re not racing anymore.

You’re managing people and you got to make a decision. Do you want to be a manager of people or do you want to go race? There’s that balance there too. And how much money am I willing to put into the business out of my pocket that sponsorship may not cover? That’s a tough one.

Johan Schwarz: It is on that side of things, you know, with, with Todd, with four cars, when we were three cars, Todd wasn’t racing, I was driving for Todd in the TC.

So I was here managing people. Now Todd obviously wants to race, right? And [00:42:00] you can’t be Thinking about managing people when you’re out there driving. Todd needs to have fun, right? Otherwise it’s not fun.

Todd Brown: So, think about this. We’ve got 30 or 40 people out here because Colin Garrett, our TC driver, TCS driver, lives 15 minutes away.

And he’s backed by this military community and he’s all involved with that. And there’s a bunch of military owned companies that are here, represented by several people. So we have 30 or 40 people out there. So you’re running a team, you’re entertaining, you’re entertaining. You’re trying to get enough liquids in you and you’re driving and one person can only do but so much.

My wife, and this is very important, my wife couldn’t make it this weekend. She had some health issues she’s dealing with. She technically owns the team and without her, there’s no way I could do it without Michelle. She’s integral and I will tell you. There’s no big secret that Karen, Johan’s wife, is a big secret to his success.

Johan Schwarz: Yep. That woman behind a man.

Todd Brown: Yeah. And you know, my wife is one of the [00:43:00] few that come to the track every race. Club race, pro race, whatever. When she’s not there, everybody says, where’s Michelle? So, I count my blessings. I’m incredibly blessed to have a wife that not only Accepts what I do, but helps be part of this and she owns Rooster Hull Racing.

Crew Chief Eric: Johan, any records

Johan Schwarz: in your future that you want to break? It’s funny you should ask because somebody contacted me about combining my drifting and the EV side of things, you know, because that’s also held by a Porsche. So it would be fun to do. So we are working a little bit on doing that and finding the facility for that, which we have.

Now it’s just putting it all together. So you might say, I see an EV drifting record here, not within, yeah, too, too long.

Crew Chief Brad: I would ask Johan what his opinion is of Porsche, but I think we know. Yeah, I think we know the answer to that. What

Johan Schwarz: is what? Your opinion is of Porsche, but I think we know. Well, actually I drive one.

I love Porsches, [00:44:00] but I also love to keep their records. I have a Porsche GT4. Yeah, so, so,

Crew Chief Eric: yeah. Well that said, let’s get your thoughts on the reveal of the new BMW. Are you guys going to be upgrading vehicles next year now that we’ve seen it for the first time at EIR?

Todd Brown: Likely. I’ve been given advice to get two or three of them, but a couple hundred thousand dollars a pop, you know, that is not probably in the cards for that.

Crew Chief Eric: What’s the biggest draw? Do you think switching to the new car early on the AC?

Todd Brown: Well, yeah, maybe. We talked about that at length, actually. We’re behind the curve this year because we just got the car and we just took it to track immediately. And it’s taken us the third race weekend to figure it out. So, obviously, when you get a car and you get it ahead of time, and you get a chance to you know, work out the bugs and figure out what it likes.

And that’s really the key. What is the car like? Does it like more camber? Does it like more tow? Does it like more [00:45:00] cross? You know what it brings set up, spring set up, shine, all that, you know, and the car is in my opinion, somewhere between this car that we have now, the M4 GT4 and the now M4 GT3. It’s somewhere in the middle there.

It’s more of a race car. It appears to be more safe, which is even better. Even has a hatch in the roof to extract somebody in case of emergency. I think that’s important. And there’s

Johan Schwarz: also some front shims now, which makes it a lot more efficient.

Todd Brown: For our type of racing, Johan’s substantially taller than me.

So we have to pull the seat. The seat stays stationary in the GT4. The pedal box moves forward and back. On the new one, they have stops that you can put at different areas. So we put it full to the stop on the front for Johan, and full to the back wherever I want my stop to be. So it’s boom, boom. And now, [00:46:00] we have to write, we have to take white chalk and write, put lines in there and I gotta kinda pull it back to that.

You know, so this would be a lot easier.

Crew Chief Eric: I smirked when I heard about that particular feature because I thought about it and I said, go karts have had that for as long as I can remember. I

Johan Schwarz: know. The adjustable

Crew Chief Eric: pedal box, right?

Johan Schwarz: Exactly. So that has the same, but it’s a little, uh, where you can just use some stops with it.

I think it’s a good looking car. I’m not a big fan of big grilles on BMWs, but I think they did a good job. They’re growing on me, by the way. Yeah, they do.

Todd Brown: I think it’s the

Crew Chief Eric: liveries that help. When you see them in just plain dress, you’re just like,

Todd Brown: wow. Well, let me tell you, I just ordered a 2022 M4 Competition X Drive last week.

So, in black. No, no, no, in Dravet Gray, which is the coolest color in the world.

But

Todd Brown: it’s got the big grill. It’s a darker car, which kind of, you know, so a little bit. But when I first saw that grill, I thought it looked hideous. Somehow, it’s growing on me. I think the [00:47:00] GT3 probably is better. No, it’s, it’s, I can’t say completely attractive, but it’s really growing on me.

Oh, and this car, this new race car, is an automatic transmission, whereas the race car we have now is a dual clutch. So they’re going backwards in some respects, but they say it shifts faster. And the dual clutch does, which is hard to imagine.

Johan Schwarz: Well, this also shows you how far automatic transmissions have come, right?

I mean, when they’re shifting that quick and the durability and there’s less, you know, uh, mechanical components in there. So it makes it extremely durable that the 240 was also an automatic transmission. They made into a paddle shift and remember how durable that is. This

Todd Brown: is a straight six, three liter with 550 horsepower.

Crew Chief Brad: Yeah. And I believe they said for tuning wise, uh, or making changes on the fly, it can all be done. You need no connecting laptops or any of that stuff. Right, you can do it in the pits, not while you’re driving, but yeah. Yeah, of course, but you do it right there from inside the car. Yeah,

Johan Schwarz: which is pretty important.

And traction, traction control too. So, Todd, he told me about the [00:48:00] new M4, uh, xDrive that you bought. And I’m super excited, I can’t wait to drive it. But when he makes the phone call to me and says, Hey, I just bought a new GT4 M4. We’re going to drive it next year. Then I’m going to be really excited.

Crew Chief Eric: So on that note, any shout outs, promotions, or anything else you’d like to share that we didn’t cover this far?

Todd Brown: Number one, my wife without her, I wouldn’t be here without her support. We wouldn’t be here. I’m sorry. She couldn’t make it this weekend, but daggone it. She’s a big part of this. And to all our supporters who follow us, my daughter, I haven’t talked about her too much. She’s out in San Diego. She’s getting into the sport now at age 29, looking very much forward to that.

My personal selfish goal is that I can be on the track with my son and my daughter at the same time. Unfortunately, I lost my oldest daughter 13 years ago and she’ll never be replaced. My daughter is a, she’s got 20, 000 followers on Instagram. [00:49:00] She’s a bodybuilder. She was nationally ranked and a great soccer player.

And I think because she’s so coordinated and she’s an athlete, she’ll fit really well into this racing. I’ll tell you, it’s true. You have to be an athlete and you have to be coordinated to do this. You don’t, See uncoordinated people do this.

Crew Chief Eric: We emphasize all the time that sport is a real thing in motor sports.

Yes, it is. Not just driving around.

Todd Brown: I played college soccer. I know what sport is at the highest level. My daughter played for West Virginia University. Top 10 in the country. Athletics are athletics. This is sport. It’s a workout. And at the end of the half an hour run, when you’re giving it 100%, you get out of that car exhausted.

Exhausted.

Johan Schwarz: Our cockpit, we saw, you know, it’s 132 degrees. We sit with a helmet and a suit on. It’s certainly some And a lot of pressure. Yeah. And the

Todd Brown: air conditioner only works when we put the brakes on. Yeah. And

Johan Schwarz: we try to use the brakes as little as possible, right? Yeah. Because what’s that for? To slow you down.

Yeah. For me, it’s kind of [00:50:00] what I wanted to say what Todd said. You know, I have the family Family support and obviously I’m here because of Todd and the partnership that we have established since 2018. And friendship. Yeah, absolutely. We have a great friendship. And while you were talking, I realized your background is kind of like the same how you got involved.

It was all self propelled, right? We didn’t have a parent that she took you to Le Mans, but you remember the cars that are parked in the street. I remember, I could recognize all the cars that we were driven by and throughout life for me and for Todd, it sounds like we It was always a priority that we saw as, you know, when I went to college, I think I may have gone to two parties because I was always trying to find out where’s the race, where can I go, where can I meet people and stuff like that.

So I’m very fortunate and I hope we will do it some more. You

Todd Brown: either have a car gene or you don’t. Yeah. You guys obviously do. Yeah. We do. And most of our close friends do because of this wonderful sport we’re involved with.

Crew Chief Brad: Owner Todd [00:51:00] Brown began Rooster Hall racing as a way to enhance his hobby. Today, Rooster Hall offers customer support, transportation, and car building from club level to pro level racing.

Rooster Hall has had multiple national championships in club racing and three successful pro seasons from 2017 through 2019 with driver Johan Schwartz bringing home the SRO championships.

Crew Chief Eric: And to learn more about rooster hall racing, be sure to log on to www. roosterhallracing. com or follow them on social at rooster hall racing on Facebook and at rooster hall on Instagram.

I cannot thank both of you enough for coming on the show, sharing your stories, getting people to know rooster hall racing a little bit more intimately and a little bit more internally. We look forward to seeing what happens this year and next year. If you guys get a new car and best of luck throughout the weekend and throughout the You’ve got a new follower, a new fan

Crew Chief Brad: in me.

I’m all on board for Rooster Crawl. Thank you.

Todd Brown: We’re hopefully going to be on the podium [00:52:00] in about an hour. Absolutely. Thank you guys. I enjoyed it a lot.

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Skip ahead if you must… Here’s the highlights from this episode you might be most interested in and their corresponding time stamps.

• 00:00 Introduction to Break/Fix Podcast
• 00:25 SRO Motorsports America Sponsorship
• 01:01 Rooster Hall Racing Spotlight
• 01:58 Interview with Johan Schwartz
• 02:08 Johan’s Motorsport Journey
• 06:34 Todd Brown’s Motorsport Background
• 10:34 Rooster Hall Racing Achievements
• 13:56 Johan’s Longest Drift Record
• 22:53 Fastest Lap in a Tesla Plaid
• 28:39 Handling Impressions of Tesla
• 28:53 The Future of Electric Vehicles in Motorsports
• 30:11 Dieselgate and Its Impact
• 31:02 Challenges of Electric Vehicles
• 33:54 The Appeal of SRO Racing
• 38:54 Managing a Racing Team
• 43:20 Future Plans and Personal Goals
• 48:15 Conclusion and Acknowledgements