B/F: The Drive Thru #32

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• This Badass 2023 GMC Syclone Is Here To Reclaim Its Throne As The Fastest Pickup
• Chevrolet Corvette Z06 Sets New Lightning Lap LL3 Class Record
• GM Confirms a New Small-Block V8 Is Coming
• Chevy Unleashes Its 1,004 HP COPO Camaro, A $135,900 Drag Racing Weapon
• Ford Applies to Patent Self-Repossessing Cars That Can Drive Themselves Away
• Chevy Camaro Axed after 2024, but a Successor Is in the Works

• BILL INTRODUCED IN U.S. HOUSE OF REPS. TO PREVENT ICE BANS
• Scratched EV battery? Your insurer may have to junk the whole car

• OAKBERRY Becomes the Official Açaí Partner to MoneyGram Haas F1 Team
• The tale of F1's most tragic rivalry which makes for compelling viewing

• Toyota CEO Says “Silent Majority” Of Auto Industry Is Doubting EV-Only Future
• 2024 Hyundai Ioniq 5 N Is No Mere Carbon-Copy Kia

• The 2023 Cardboard Classic

We don’t think this made CCG’s list of events…

• 16 Hypercars Highlight Official 2023 Le Mans Field

KIMI is back with the TrackHouse team… and then there’s Jensen Button

CHAOS ensues at the end of 2023 Sebring 12hrs!

• PRO-MOTORSPORTS LEGISLATION ONE STEP CLOSER TO WV LAW

• Woman goes viral for buying a 1998 Ford Escort for $289 a month for the next 84 months

• NHTSA Is Investigating Tesla Over Model Y Steering Wheels Falling Off
• Tesla expects to lose full $7,500 tax credit on its cheapest electric car

Tesla hatchback teased before Investors Day

[00:00:00] Hello and welcome to the Gran Touring Motor Sports Podcast Break Fix, where we’re always fixing the break into something motorsports related. The Drive-Throughs GTMs monthly news episode and is sponsored in part by organizations like H P D E junkie.com, hooked on driving American muscle.com, collector car guide.net, project Motoring Garage style magazine, and many others.

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This is our monthly recap where we put together a menu of automotive motorsport in random car adjacent news. Now let’s pull up to window number. For some news. Just news, oh [00:01:00] shoot. That’s leftover from season three. We’re in season four now. Can you believe that? Season 40? Yeah. It feels like season. Feels like season 40 for sure.

You know what else it feels like? Like I’m having one of these macho man, Randy Savage kind of. Season four. So I’m like, yeah brother Rick flair in this thing. Like we’ve really gotta come into season four with the bang. Like whoa. Right. I mean come you feel you got the energy, I feel it. It’s welling up inside me.

We gotta get this news out to people in an exciting way. You know? I feel some energy too. The energy I feel is more like N P R. Ah, welcome to drive through episode 32. Tanya’s over there like, hmm, there’s just a disturbance in the force. No, these are always like, as my bedtime approaches. So my energy level’s not high.

You’ve asked way too much for the hour of the day. She’s used to being a an hour behind in Texas, so she had an extra hour. I know. So, That was life changing. . Yeah. Well, let’s snap into a drop through, brother. Jesus [00:02:00] Christ. Let’s tap into our inner w e, shall we? Back in my day was an F, not an E, but that being said, this month’s showcase, we’re gonna talk about one of our favorite brands, probably for the first time as an actual showcase rather than the next in line B m W.

Yeah, right. Volkswagen, Audi and Porsche. Is it Porsche? Or Porsche? There’s different schools of thought on that. I’ve heard The car is of Porsche and the family is Porsche. But I could be wrong. Tomato. Is that one of those things where you have to own one to know how to pronounce it? Yeah. There’s a secret handshake too, because in that case you should know

It’s like the inn out menu, right? There’s all these secret things about being a Porsche owner. But you know what isn’t a secret? We talked about this before, scout as in International Scout, international Harvester, which we all thought belonged to Ford Forever, was bought by Volkswagen. They own all that and they’re coming out with the scout again, but as an ev, so apparently Scouts backed by Volkswagen is going to build a 2 billion [00:03:00] factory in South Carolina.

Where did they come up with all this money? Didn’t they lose more than that? Like 15 billion during diesel gate? How did they make it all back? How many billions did you get from Diesel gate because you had a few of those? Uh, I don’t believe it was billions. . How many hundreds did you get from that? I mean if we counted it in kilobytes, then maybe it was billions.

You know what I mean? You counted in Ute and Yuan or whatever. Chinese, again. Exactly. 2 billion pesos, . There’s a follow on article to this article from TechCrunch, from Haggerty. Volkswagen is obviously talking about the scout plant and what they’re investing in it, and they’re really a bullish on bringing this vehicle back and you know how it’s gonna sell in the States cuz of nostalgia and everything else.

But they also talked about how there’s this, let’s call it gold rush in America right now to build factories, especially for EVs in the United States. And so I’m like, really? Where are we building all these factories? Exactly. South Carolina, North Carolina, [00:04:00] not densely populating cities. The whole eastern seaboard compared to like the Midwest, obviously the big three were building all their factories like in Ohio and Illinois and places like that.

Why not move back to those areas where they almost need it more? Like I feel like building another plant alongside of BMW and Mercedes and everybody else that’s in the Carolinas to include nascar. Does that make. I mean, it depends on how attractive the local establishment is making it for these companies to come and build these facilities.

I mean, in the article here it says it’s South Carolina Governor Henry McMaster classic name, by the way. He’s making it a priority to make his state an EV epicenter, and I guarantee you A, having worked for quasi-government agency and being in the business of providing business loans and commercial loans to businesses using state and public funding, there’s a ton of incentives to be had out there.

Yeah, it all depends on what the agenda is. of the local municipality and what they want to do. If [00:05:00] he’s making it an EV epicenter making that a priority, then he’s going to prioritize state funding, incentivizing companies to come to his state. I’m just curious, the drawbacks too, you, you’re building a factory.

What’s the green initiative look like there? How clean is the factory? Right? Because it takes certain machinery and tooling and things that already exist today to create these, let’s call them quote unquote clean vehicles. So there’s sort of a give and take there. I’m very curious to see how this pans out.

They’re claiming 200,000 EVs a year coming out of the New Scout plant. That’s exciting because I think it’s a cool idea. I’d love to see these on the road. They’re also talking about potentially competing with the rivian of the world and the Broncos and the wranglers and things like that. So the price point of this scout.

T B D at this point, I’m hoping they don’t price the enthusiast out of the vehicle. If it’s competing in those markets, it’s gonna be in the 40, 50, 60 range. Yeah. The Rivian, I think is on the higher end of that. So that’s the scary part. Like hopefully they don’t reach for that level and they keep it somewhere in between.

Yeah. They’ll have [00:06:00] different levels, I’m sure. And they’ll have different sized versions, I’m sure too. They’ll probably have like an equivalent to the Bronco sport. Mm-hmm. as well as the actual Bronco. I’m excited. I, I’m all four more off-road capable vehicles. Do you think this is gonna be off-road cap?

That’s what it’s supposed to be. It’s supposed to be rugged US market with a rugged oh, electric view. Don’t they all say they’re rugged until you actually take them off the mall parking lot? Yes. So it depends. The Broncos are capable. Wranglers have been proven for decades to be capable. Yes. I believe that.

If that’s the market they’re going for, damn well, better be rugged. Absolutely. Well, switching gears, maybe they’re paying for all this with the new Porsche nine 11 GT three RS tribute package, supposedly honoring the iconic 1973 Carrera Rs. What do you guys think? I hate the front. Thank you. The front lid.

Even just the regular bay nine 11. I hate. The little grilled or whatever. I mean, I’m sure they’re functional. The hood vents. Or the funk vents, it looks like a bajon nose. Oh, . [00:07:00] There is something really wrong with that hood. I agree with you that scaffolding across the bridge of its nose does remind me now of a bajon, now that you say that the bottom half of the bumper.

Is reminiscent of the tacan. It’s kind of odd from the front, the rest of the car. I like the livery. I love the green, white, and black. It looks really cool. I like the green and white. Yeah. I don’t know how I feel about the spoilers around the wheels. Oh, the canards? Yeah, front and back. Those are interesting.

I mean, obviously they’re there for a reason. they don’t take away and they don’t add because of the other black accents. I don’t even notice ’em right away. And then you pointed ’em out and obviously they’re there. I mean, what’s more ostentatious is that rear wing. I mean, good lord, if you couldn’t feed a family of 12 of on that thing, it is huge.

And the weird fender arch too. The weird cutout. Fender arch thing or whatever. I don’t know. It’s okay. What I think they’re doing is they’re borrowing from the IMSA nine 11 in that respect where it has that sort of cut rear fender and the way the [00:08:00] bumpers come off on those cars. So it reminds me of the legitimate GT three cars, so I don’t hate it.

Right. Does that mean it’s mid engine? Ah, you know , but you know what it is manual. It comes with a manual transmission. Oh, so you won’t see it on any racetracks then because they don’t use manual cars and races. Yeah. Yeah, I know Tanya discovered that much to her chagrin. Yeah. You know what else is disappointing?

You might be able to get two of these bargain at $314,000 after delivery destination charges. It comes with a. So you can tell how quickly you’re wasting your money. Yeah. So the watch is 300,000 and then the car is 15,000. The magnesium watch. So yes, that stuff is all super cool if you’re in the market for that, God bless you.

I’m gonna be jealous from afar and live vicariously through every lap. You turn at Watkins Glen with one of these things. It’s coming to an H O D event near you. It is cool except for that hood. In the further down pictures, the car that has the color matched hood, it [00:09:00] still looks like a bajon, but it’s not as hateful.

It looks better. It looks better if they would make, just make it all white. Yeah, a hundred percent. It would look nicer. In order to drive your nine 11 GT three Rs on track, you need to put petrol in it cuz it’s not an ev. And Porsche’s got a plan for that too. Well, what you would put at it eventually is Porsche’s land to make their own eels.

whatever that means in terms of it being their own, I mean hopefully, obviously if they’re partnering with major oil and gas companies to fund, I guess the process to make the eels, I mean, hopefully it’s not just a, a Porsche exclusive or something like that. Right? But there’s also other news that the European Union is looking to legalize eels as an alternative to electric.

I don’t even know what that means, cuz eel is still gasoline. So gasoline’s legal, why wouldn’t, yeah, it’s an oxymoron, right? An EFU will be legal. I mean, I, it becomes an EFU in the way it’s manufactured, is far allegedly greener than regular conventional gasoline. The [00:10:00] point Eric was making about the EV plants in manufacturing these factories, Building EVs isn’t necessarily environmentally safe to begin with.

I think the point is to be carbon neutral right from start to finish, I guess. So whatever the damage they do, they make up for it on the back end or, or something like that. I think is, well, part of it with the plants too is. You need power to run them, right? The power that you run in your plants could also be from sustainable means, right?

So whether that’s wind, solar, nuclear, , they said that the plant itself is being run by like a single wind turbine or something like that right now because the EFU plant is still sort of in the building stages versus you know, where they claim it’s gonna be in the future. Yeah, I mean, if they’re doing a pilot scale plant, they’re not making huge quantities of it.

I’m sure they could probably have enough power generated from a single wind turbine. And I think part of the real Porsche announcement about them being successful, and I think their pilot plant, they’re doing it down in [00:11:00] South America, in the area that’s very, very windy and they chose that on purpose, which is interesting because that area is very.

touristy, let’s say can be cuz it’s like the hub point to some really big, major hikes and beautiful landscape and area. So part of me is like, yes, this is very cool. We need to do this. And the other part of me is like, why are you doing it in such a beautiful place? . Nobody wants that in their backyard, right?

Which is a classic thing with, you know, all oil refineries and things like that too. Everybody wants their oil, but they don’t want it in their backyard. But I did find it funny as you scroll through this article and they show some of the shots of the beginnings of the plant and one in particular, there’s one of the tankers there.

But if you pay close attention to the background of the building, you see the Porsche logo, you see Siemens. ExxonMobil, NL and a couple other companies on there, and I’m like, there’s some big names. Obviously putting their logos on the side of this building that are involved in this entire process of creating this quote unquote, eel, ExxonMobil and Warsh [00:12:00] partnered with this already several years ago.

They’ve been in the process of working together to develop this. That’s not news. The process that they’re using to do it isn’t new. I mean, it might be new to the general masses, but it’s old tech technically so good on them if they’re able to scale it in a more affordable way now than versus, you know, decades ago.

You know, the question is how much will this fuel end up costing you at the end of of the day? Right? As the consumer, because talked about this in other places, gasoline and diesel are at this point, byproducts of the refining process. It’s not that refineries are just solely making gasoline. You make a ton of different chemicals, if you will, from the process.

two of which go into our cars every day or in our planes or the lubricants that go into your engine oils and all that stuff. The asphalt that you drive on the road to the pen that you may or may not use if you still use paper. All these plastics and stuff in our daily lives are all byproducts outta the refining process.

You can destroy gasoline molecules down further and [00:13:00] use them to do something else, but that’s expensive. And most of the equipment on the ground today isn’t designed to do that. To go in and retrofit or redesign is very costly, so you get to a certain point where you can only do so much and then suddenly you’re spending tons of money.

to solve a problem, you know? Yeah. And that’s gonna just translate into the cost of things. So what they’re doing here as well, they’re going about at a different route, but is it cost effective? And it, we won’t know until they start scaling it up. It’s great. And we should be looking for alternative means and more carbon neutral or greener, whatever you wanna call it.

Gasoline right now is, I don’t know, depending where you are, three to $4 a gallon. People are upset about that. Well, what if they come around? They’re like, we can have your refuel. It’s $12 a gallon. I don’t think anybody’s gonna go buy it. Exactly. I mean, not saying that it’s gonna cost that much, but it’s not gonna be 12 cents a gallon because it’s Oh, it’s green.

Right. Well, not only that, if you read this article the way it’s exactly written, it’s only designed for nine elevens for more than 700,009 elevens alone. We just completely [00:14:00] disenfranchised every other Porsche owner on the planet. They are not allowed to have this fuel specially formulated only for the nine 11.

Which made me wonder, when does Ferrari come out with their fuel, and is it gonna burn a little hotter, it’s gonna make the car a little faster, or is it just gonna end a disappointment? Like every F1 race, they’re gonna call it They’re gonna string along carbon molecule. To make Octane is gonna be the same

S S D B, right? Same ship, different bottle. Is that what we’re talking about here? Well, and that’s what I’m wondering. Porsche slaps their name on it, kind of like the formula card they were building. Are you getting to get an upcharge for that? I don’t know, , that’s why I’m like, are they can’t be just for them.

They’re linking carbon molecules together to make octane Octane’s octane at the end of the day. And beyond that, then everybody puts their additives and this, that and the other. She power, blah, blah, blah, all that stuff. Right? So are they gonna make their own additives too, that make. Especially Porsche, especially Racy.

I don’t know. Cause I thought it said it will work. It doesn’t matter. You don’t need a different EMO or [00:15:00] anything. It’s just gonna work. Yes, cuz it’s octane, , the motor doesn’t pair as long as it’s getting it. If I pour it into my four cylinder turbo and it suddenly sounds like a flat six, that’s that Porsche additive that they added.

I mean maybe, I mean it’s great. I love new technology. I love them trying new things. It’s just a matter of can it be as affordable as what they’re doing now since you like new technology so much, I think you have some you’d like to share. Since retro’s in still, I think it’s still in right? It’s still in retro?

I think so. Yeah, I think so. I don’t think we’ve moved out of that phase yet. So to continue riding that train, Volkswagen has said that their ID two all model, their names are a little confusing, but the ID two all, which I don’t think is coming to the United States, but that electric vehicle that they’re gonna have in Europe is going to have retro gauge options in the instrument cluster.

So you could harken back to a mark one instrument [00:16:00] cluster or a vintage beetle instrument cluster digitally in your car. There’s good in, there’s bad here. The goods. I don’t know if they necessarily outweigh the bads yet, so let’s go over the goods. I love the fact that you can have like classic rabbit hico dashboard and I’m hoping it has like the weird vacuum buzzer and the shift up light, even though this thing doesn’t even basically have a transmission.

You know, stuff like that. I think it’s all super neat. I believe Ford was doing some of this too with the Machi, like you change the dashboard and all that kinda stuff. I think it’s a really neat idea, but when you get to the radio, that’s where you start to lose me. That was hilarious. The cassette that, okay.

Like a drop in cassette. I’m like, I would have that. Okay. That is cool. 1930s Beatle Radio. Not a fan of that. At all. But it all makes me wonder how reliable it is, how good it’s gonna be. It’s completely touched. There are no buttons and I’ve had some bad experiences with these sorts of things in the past.

Yeah, you don’t need the [00:17:00] buttons, you don’t need to worry about that if it’s your instrument cluster, cuz you generally never touch that. Yeah, there’s like the pegs to reset mileage or the time clock, but we can do that differently now. But the radio and all that stuff, being just a iPad. Yeah, I’m not a big fan of that.

And I think neither are some other manufacturers that we’re gonna get into later. But it was Hyundai, so they’re not a fan of it either. Cuz they said they want to keep going with the tactile buttons and all that stuff because it’s unsafe to be floundering around trying to figure out what your touchscreen is doing and doesn’t touch because.

Not sensitive enough or oversensitive, and you’re scrolling through 10 pages just to turn your radio station one dial. But the Volkswagen has the drop in cassette and the sticky notes and stuff. How cool is that? I would have the drop in cassette . I actually really like the sticky note. I don’t know why, but I thought the little post-it note and the added detail of the scotch tape was really cute.

I don’t know, but I agree with Hyundai. I am all for the buttons and it’s one of the things I enjoy the [00:18:00] most about the center console in my Jeep. The Uconnect for years was rated as one of the best M F I touchscreen systems, but it has complete button backups so you don’t. Have to touch the screen if you don’t want to, to make everything work.

And so I love the idea of the customizability of these setups, but it just scares me when something breaks, then it’s 75,000 degrees outside and you can’t turn on the air conditioning. So what if it goes obsolete and they’re not patching it anymore and there’s no update. Now you’re stuck. It got stuck on the VW Beetle 1967 Radio.

Well, better. It’s like your iPad and it says Apple no longer supports this operating system. We’re uninstalling all your apps. So you’re left with nothing. . Let’s talk about the ID two for a second. You said it might not be coming to the United States. Well, the ID two all either way. I like it. It’s what the golf should be.

It’s sort of bigger than the polo, but not as big as the limousine that we got. That is the golf. Now, it sort of reminds me of [00:19:00] like a Mark four sized Volkswagen, and it’s very well proportioned. It looks good. This interior’s cool that they’re partnering with it, but bring us that car. I think that’s a neat thing to have and they probably won’t bring it to us.

Nope, never forget it. I feel like if they brought that it would sell better than the golf. The golf’s too big going. The way the American market has gone with the crossovers and the Honda HR-V and the Toyota thing that’s smaller than a rav4. It’s basically a golf that’s lifted that’s perfect for what the US market wants.

I mean, I’m gonna put on my great Carnac hat and you know the whole Johnny Carson bit now, and I’m gonna tell you that the ninth generation G T I is actually a tig. That’s where we’re going. I mean, to your point, Brad, right? They just keep getting bigger and taller and I feel like the days of the classic hatchback are numbered.

Every time I see a mark eight on the road, I’m like, when did it get so big? Not on the inside though. How does that work? Uh, whatever. It’s funny cuz they say the performance of this is on par with a G T I really, obviously not fuel economy. It only has like a two 80 mile range. I [00:20:00] imagine the GTI does a little bit better than that.

Probably not much. It’s probably in the 300 s honestly. But if you’re getting the same maybe horsepower, zero to 60 that people love, that’s pretty good. Yeah. For $25,000, even though we’re not getting the ID two, there’s a current collaboration for another EV coming out and it’s a partnership between Volkswagen.

Ford, it’s the Explorer, S U v that’s gonna be built off the VW m e B platform. It sort of looks like an ID four, which is obviously the platform that it’s built on top of. But I kind of like it better. It’s better proportion. It doesn’t look like a bad facelift, you know what I mean? Where they take your face and they try to stretch it back to your ears.

It’s just the, the ID four s got a weird front end to it that I don’t understand, but the Explorer being a little bit more blocky. I like the way it looks. I’m wondering what Ford is bringing to the table on this particular build, outside of the aesthetics and the brand. But it’s interesting to see two of the bigger players coming together.

And the question is, why are they [00:21:00] trying to take some market share away from Toyota? Are they worried about. , what’s going on here? Why all of a sudden is there a partnership between Volkswagen and Ford? Well, cuz Ford and Europe, because this SUV is going to be in Europe, it’s not going to be the explorer that eventually comes here.

Right. So it has to be smaller because so far Europeans are still trending smaller even though their cars are getting bigger too. Ford and Europe has always. Sort of had a big presence and a different presence than Ford in America, in Ford in America has been very much focused on Merck the Lightning, which is a non suitable platform.

Yeah, that makes sense. Or a small S U V. And so if they’re looking to be quick and get into the market fast, then it makes sense. I don’t know what the relationship is that makes it easy for them to partner, but it probably is a very easy way for them to quickly pump out a small s u v on a chassis that already exists versus them spending the time doing it.

Makes sense. Curious to see how that pans out. Unfortunately, that might be another vehicle we just never get here, [00:22:00] maybe on our next European vacation. Right. Well, you know, it can’t all be sunshine and roses for Volkswagen, Porsche and Audi. There’s some wa wa moments this month. Should we give our loyal audience a teaser into what to expect later maybe in Florida Man, and lowered expectations.

Sure. I love the one that’s gonna piss everybody off. Oh well. Well, which one’s that one? Well, I think the title of the article is a little Misleading, but it says Volkswagen wouldn’t help cops find Car with Abducted Child until the G P S subscription was restored. Now it really wasn’t Volkswagen, it was a third party vendor that Volkswagen contracts with called Carnet because they do the vehicle tracking service for the Volkswagen G p s system.

So Carnet refused to give the information to the police until they renewed the subscription for the G P s. And how much was that renewal, by the way, for a G P S 100? $50, which when a child’s life is on the line, I would’ve whipped out my personal credit card and been like, let’s [00:23:00] get this going. It depends on the kid , and then reported it as a fraudulent charge.

No, I’m just kidding. . Exactly. Exa, you put it on the corporate card and it’s really funny because there’s different ways to look at this. I mean, nobody wants to get fired from their job. This person’s just doing what they’re supposed to, it’s what the script says, blah, blah, blah. How can they verify that, you know, this is actually happening?

I mean, unless the cop is there, you know, that kind of stuff. There’s a bunch of ways to look at this, justify this, et cetera. But then on the other side it’s like, why is the G P S. Subscription’s so expensive. Again, why is it a subscription? Why is this even a thing? I feel like if this was OnStar in an emergency like this, especially dealing with a child, we wouldn’t be having this conversation.

They probably would’ve just done it. Obviously, they’re a nationally recognized brand. They don’t want this to be put out into the public like this. Any sort of backlash, but then I’m kind of thinking to. You know, for 25 bucks you could put an air tag in your car. It’s not just Volkswagen and whoever Volkswagen’s using to partner.

I don’t [00:24:00] know what OnStar would do or not do cuz they’re a whole other third party entity. Right. Cuz Toyota behaves the same way. So I know someone who had their car stolen, they had just recently, within a month or two the GPS subscription had lapsed or whatever and they had called Toyota asking can I get it reestablished so that I can find my car?

And they said no they would not. They refused. I don’t know how hard the person tried cause I would’ve been like trying really hard. I mean, he offered to pay, they still refused. So I don’t know how OnStar would react, but it’s something in the script for these companies. And to your point, how do they know someone’s not just bullshit?

No, my car’s stolen. They’re standing outside some randos car hoping that they get the one person to unlock the doors remotely, right? It needs to be like when Picard would put in the override code, Picard, alpha, beta oh three seven, you know, whatever, and then it, they go, oh, okay, that’s the unlock code.

We’re good. Like the cops need to have that in a situation like that. Get your law enforcement involved and maybe they can override these companies and script be damned. The bigger concern here is a [00:25:00] child was involved kidnapping. It’s like, come on guys, you’re slowing the process down. I have the solution.

They need two fa. So they needed to like, yeah, two fa, the police send them a special code that they typed in, so they knew it was the police. And then unlocked it and been like, just send me an invoice. . Exactly. You are a problem solver. Excellent. Work. 150 bucks for G P s. Why is it a subscription to begin with?

I don’t understand. Why do you need a subscription for heated seats? Exactly. Why do you need a subscription for any of those bullshit? Volkswagen has not stooped to that level yet. Yet. That is a bmw. But they did with the GPS right here. Do you know what day is coming up? 4 24 1. And what usually happens on four one?

Oh, no, no. We get an update on the Corvette. S U V. No, they’re gonna change the name to Volt Wagon again or whatever. Oh, we’re just kidding. We’re just kidding. We don’t know. It’ll be this year. It’ll be exciting. We should be on the lookout. We’ll post that in Discord some. If somebody finds out before we do, it’ll be VO description.

Well, this next one I think is borderline [00:26:00] Florida, man, because I don’t get the lifestyle guys. VW golf slammed so low it can’t refuel without taking a wheel off. Come on. I don’t understand the lifestyle either. I don’t understand how the car moves . Well, it doesn’t, it doesn’t have any fuel fair. That’s fair.

That’s fair. But at least this one in this particular picture, I mean, it looks like it’s riding on the, the rim. I mean, they’re so stance. It’s like, are are you even a millimeter of tread and you’re just scraping the rim the whole way? Like how does the car even move? Dude, that car is parked. Hard. You hit a cigarette button.

What? I don’t know. It’s the end of the world. You brush the tooth. The folks that do it, I, I don’t wanna say they do it right, but the way I’ve seen it done is the car is on bags and they can lift it back up. So it drives, normally, it’ll still have some stance. No, I’ve read that. Like bag life is something different.

You don’t cross the two. I think bag life is posing parking hard. Baby. My question is, how do you get [00:27:00] negative 40 degrees of Canberra like this guy has? I mean, it’s just, where’s the shock tower in this car? That’s what I wanna know. What’s spring perch and shock tower ? We talk. What are these like foreign car parts that you’re talking about?

They don’t exist. It’s just welded to the inside of the fender, basically. Yeah. Yeah. It’s just a straight actual welded . I do love the subtitle for this stance can be good until it compromises basic safety. Yeah, basic safety, any of that. Over Camber. Any of that is compromising safety. When you’re on a street road, like, I’m sorry, you’re not at the track that you need to have the camera through the turns, but even there, nobody runs this kind of camera.

No, because you would skid off the track. No tractions. No grip. them skidder cars. Could you imagine the amount of suspension deflection you would have if you had to have this amount of camber? Imagine going into the carousel. You would probably obliterate into [00:28:00] pieces. Dude, you would just stop right on it.

Like it was like a sandbar or something. Like it just would beach itself there. There’s no way you wouldn’t make it out of the pit with that kind of stance. There’s just, ugh. The funny part is though, on this article I read through some of the commentary that’s always the best. Oh, it’s wonderful. So one thing I learned is that the rest of us who don’t stance are known as static.

So it’s static struggles that we have. What do you wanna like go for it? Because my static struggles are gonna win. Wind every time. The first off ramp, this guy’s done. I don’t have struggles. I don’t know what that means. The other great comment was this guy defending, apparently he’s got a shop and so he does a lot of stance work and fixing people’s cars and all that stuff, because I assume these cars break down all the time.

But nonetheless, like seeing someone admit to this, And I quote, hell, I have one myself that I literally replaced my subframe every three months. [00:29:00] Whoa. Hot. Can you imagine? No, you are effing up your subframe and having to replace it every three months. I want more information. Like is this, you drove it three times.

You drove it every day. You drove it once. , that is beyond comprehension. Let me continue cuz this guy, it’s all about the love and doing what you have to get the look you want. It’s funny, some people think they only do this for show then raise their car back up. That’s what airbags are for. See? See the whole reason of being static is quote, driving it like you park it.

Oh yeah. I have a slam Chevy Aveo with negative 14 front and negative 20 rear cam. So us static people just wanna drive it like we’re parking it. No, I wanna drive it, like I can fucking drive it . So if that’s the static life, I am 150000% hashtag static. We some t-shirts, hashtag static. That’s a good idea.

Static struggles aren’t real. I [00:30:00] love somebody to educate me on Stan’s life. I’d love to see one of these cars up close, how they’re built. I can only speculate on the type of engineering involved to make this successful. You mean Well, duct tape was used on this car as the fuel cap , because we know duct tape is not impacted by something like gasoline splashing on it.

But you know, hey, we spent money to have our rear CAS powder coated pink, but not the money to have our gas tank filler relocated. All jokes aside, I’ve seen plenty of show cars where things like the filler neck are hidden or relocated, but a lot of thought is put into those hot rods to make that happen.

I know one in particular open the trunk and the filler neck is on the inside. Yeah. Maybe not the best thing with fumes or whatever, but it’s a show cart. It gets trailered to most places, you know, stuff like that. It’s also parked hard. It’s super low. It’s not stanced out like this, but the extra thought was put into.

Wait, I gotta put gas in it cuz I do [00:31:00] have to move it every once in a while. I think I know the car you’re talking about. So say like, this was a, just a Stan show car. How would you even pull this on a trailer? . That’s what the bags are for. Oh wait, nevermind. But apparently not. Hey, you know who doesn’t have these struggles?

Static. Static Life not, not in problems and static life. Painting one. Oh. We’re living the good life over here. Static Town, high life. We need some racing stickers made. Who’s your sponsor? Static Is that Stasis? No static. Static. Static Motorsports. We’re renaming the team now. Well folks, we have to move on from Volkswagen Audi Portion News onto our domestic segment, sponsored by American muscle.com, your source for o Eem and performance.

Chevy for and Mopar Hearts. So we kick off with Van Life. Did you see how much Canberra this van has? This thing’s wild. It’s like maybe three degrees . Three. Wait, they didn’t put negative 20 No. On the rear? No. How’s it go so fast then? [00:32:00] I would love to see that G t I go up Pike’s Peak like this 1,973 horsepower board Super Van did is now the record holding fastest van on the planet.

Fastest van. Yes. Yes. As Clarkson Hammond, and May used to say, Sam top gear. What’s the fastest car in Europe? A four transit. Well, you know, what out’s the fastest van? The Pike’s Peak. You know what’s a shame? And the first thing I thought of was that we will never see this on the nerve. Burger ring. Driven by Sabine Schmidt.

Mm-hmm. . She would’ve had a field day with it. Almost 2000 horsepower. Can you imagine this thing coming up in your rear view mirror, yet? The hell? Out of the way. You wouldn’t see it by the time you saw it behind you. It would already be in front of you. Dude, this thing is incredible. I mean, I love stuff like this.

This is awesome. It’s a little skittish looking though. It looks like it for gt, the back end, the with the cutouts for aerodynamics and stuff. It’s awesome. I’m in the market for a van. This looks pretty awesome. The video’s fantastic. No, it looks cool, but [00:33:00] like watching the Goodwood video, I’m like, man, you felt like it was like on the cusp of being wildly unstable.

That’s how Eric likes to drive. Well, here’s the best part. This is a legitimate run up the peak. It set the record for obviously it’s class. It was driven by a three time lamont’s winner who also currently holds the Pikes Peak record from 2018 in the Volkswagen I d r. It’s not like this was just like Aha publicity stunt.

Like this is legit. So basically, if you want a world record at Pike’s Peak, you just hire this driver to do it for you and do it in a van, and then do it in van sliding doors. Doors. I haven’t seen an S U V run up Pike’s Peak. Hmm. I want to see the Tesla semi do it. Well, you’re gonna be waiting a while.

Okay. So , it’s gonna cost you your down payment on your cyber truck. I agree with Tanya though it looks very on the cusp of going into the wall. Let me put it into perspective for you. I know it’s not the same company. Hein it black and then put a red stripe all the way up to the. Tell [00:34:00] me this isn’t the new 18 Van

It’s awesome. It’s awesome. All I request from turn 10 is that this van be put in Forza to the next Forza game. Turn 10. If you’re listening. I know you’re listening. Please, please put this in there. Well, you know what else they need to add to the next Forza game. And I don’t say this often about trucks. Ah, but this 2023 G M C cyclone that they’re proposing.

Come on Tanya. You don’t like trucks? This is hot. Super cool. Uh, I don’t like the hood. What? There’s a lot happening on the front. . Very, very gaudy. I hate the hood. Be like, you, y’all just farted in church. Like, what are you talking about? This thing is incredible. This is one of those, like, if I do this, . I’m like, yeah, I love the rear, the tailgate and the fender flaring there.

Solid, very boxy. So it’s very like old school. And then the front, if I did this and I’m holding up my hand covering the front half and now I’m [00:35:00] covering up the back half the front, I’m like, it’s any other G M C. And there’s just a lot of grill there and a lot of hood scooping for no reason. Presumably look at that front on shot.

It’s like the fourth or fifth picture down the one just before they have the picture of like the autumn leaves and all that kind of stuff. Look at that front end. It looks just like a happy little rottweiler. It wants to see you, it wants to nuzzle you. Like this truck is just aggressive, but sort of docile at the same time.

Like, I would drive this truck. I would drive the hell out of this truck. How can you not say that? This is cool. I like it from every angle, but the French, what? Brad? Come on. You know, and my long-term plan is to build a sport truck like this, but it’s gonna be a lot more understated. I do dig the fender flares.

I like the wide bodiedness. I just don’t like that hood. I, I’ve never been a fan of like the hood scoops on that. From the gto to this, to the Trans Am I just, I’m not a fan. That’s Ram Air Dude. Ram Air. I, I understand. I, I understand personally. I [00:36:00] just don’t like the aesthetically it, it’s any consolation.

The front of the original cyclone is nothing to write home about either. It’s pretty boring. It’s, it’s an S 10 basically. What, whatever. It’s GMC Sonoma. We can’t have this truck. You know why? It’s way too static. . Exactly. I love it. Almost like a 400 tire in the back of that thing. Do we know how much it’s going to be?

75,000. That’s a bargain. It’s not actually for sale. I don’t think. That’s the price. They’re not actually building it, are they? It’s proposed. It’s a teaser. , whatever they’re saying, zero to 60 in three seconds, what’s up? Twin turbos. All sorts of fantasy things that’ll probably never come to fruition, but again, make this, take my money, take a nap.

Wow, awesome. You can keep all your Zs and all that other stuff. This is cool. You heard it here first, folks. I am voting for a truck. All right. On that note, you know we talked about the lap record at Pike’s Peak with the Ford Super Van. Well, Chevy’s set in some records too. They did a new [00:37:00] lightning lap in the zero six.

It currently holds the LL three class record. Yay. What? Okay, cool. This is the whole thing with car and driver, right? They have their test track. It’s sort of the equivalent to the top gear, you know, lightning lap that they would do. So car and driver’s kind of trying to pick up the torch and do the same thing.

Like, oh, where does this next car end up on the list? You know, that kind of thing. Do we go buy Old Lady’s house? And you know, all that stuff that they were doing. I mean, the news zero six is a phenomenal car. It makes a gillion horsepower. It’s, you know, a water down version of the race car. Okay. I didn’t expect it to not beat pretty much everything else that’s out.

But you look at some of the things that are on the list and I’m like, okay, the Nissan gtr, they stopped making that How long ago? The Dodge Viper. S R t 10 ACR R. Well, we know those are still for sale, new at every Chrysler dealership that Brad looks into, but that’s in the same class. They stopped making that car seven years ago.

Oh my God. A mosler like, how old is that? This class is sort of weird in the sense that it’s like, great, the Corvette now has the [00:38:00] record against a bunch of cars that are like 10 years at senior. In order to get power into that proposed GMC cyclone, which we know is never coming. GM confirms that a new small block V8 is coming.

And again, here we go. We’re talking about electrification, electrification, electrification, and GM’s working on a six generation small block. I don’t even know what to say. I, I guess maybe I’m like a proud papa. Yeah, GM you go, because we know that s STIs has bowed out. We’re not building any more muscle cars, although the electric charger is coming.

So now GM steps into their role and says, , move out of the way guys. We’re gonna bring you another three 50 mm. Well, somebody needs to make internal combustion Minnesota on those eels. Will this run on the Porsche fuel? Will it be compatible? I don’t see why not. Well, if that wasn’t enough, Chevy also unleashed a 1004 horsepower COPO Camaro listed as $136,000 drag racing weapon.

I keep seeing that as C O P D, Camaro . You know what [00:39:00] bugs me about this is the same thing we’ve talked about before. 632 cubic inches. If anybody wants to do the mental gymnastics on that and convert it to the metric system, it’s 10.4 liters out of a naturally aspirated v8. And I think to myself, 10.4 liter v8 and it.

Only makes a thousand horsepower. Well, in the case when it comes to like trucks and stuff like that, and they’ve got these big motors and they’re not producing it as much power as a BMW or Mercedes with a motor half the size. I think it’s due to, I guess the longevity of the motor and they’re tuned and the compression is as such to make it to the vehicles last.

A long time. They’re not wind out completely right. But this is a drag car. The whole point of this thing is to go as fast as possible on a short amount of time. Why can’t they get more power out of it? It doesn’t make any sense to me. Well, there’s that too. And is it just a numbers game to say that they have what, three more horsepower than the demonn and they did it without a blower?

What are you talking about without a blower? There’s a blower on this thing. It says naturally aspirated. That’s not a roots type [00:40:00] blower on the top. It’s a magnus and blower, isn’t it? No, it says no blow. There’s something on the top of that motor. Is that just air intake? Well then they lied in this article cuz it says naturally aspirated.

So that makes it worse. We gotta get down to the bottom of this. We gotta put our sleuthing hats on because my eyes are telling me that that is a fucking supercharger on. So if that’s the. That’s even worse. Yes, you’re right. The picture does say Magson, and that probably is a supercharger on top there.

Although I don’t see a way to actuate that. I just see a throttle body and an and a RAM intake. So that might just be a magson intake. Yeah, maybe. Let’s say it was supercharged, which the article, I don’t think it is. That’s not great either, and you’re only making three more horsepower out of this v8 and the Hemi is so much smaller in the demonn and even there it’s like, okay, great, but gm here you go again.

Five years too late. Dodge already did this. Why do we even care? Yeah, I don’t know much about car scoops, but pretty sure that they should not have used, unless that’s a picture from the old [00:41:00] Copo Camaro. They might have just taken a picture and thrown it up. You never know. Okay, well then if they’re gonna be in the car industry and they’re gonna write articles about cars, so I’m okay.

I’m looking at the pictures. There’s one without a supercharger, and then there’s one with a supercharger, and then there’s one with a carburetor. So what , what is this? What are you doing? None of it really matters because as Tanya’s gonna tell us, GM’s doing the hokey pokey with the Camaro anyway, so all of this is moot.

We’ve all heard that the sales aren’t great, and so they’re gonna discontinue it. And so that sounds like it’s official, that it’ll be gone after 2024, but a successor’s already in the works. This is quote, not the end of Camaro’s story. Is the Camaro going away or not? How can it be axed but still have a.

what’s the sequel here? Is it the Camaro Blazer? Are we gonna badge an u v with the Campero name like Mustang? Is that gonna be the next Camaro? Yes. I think I just threw up in the back of my throat. Why? No, this [00:42:00] is just like the Corvette S U V thing. I’m like, no, badge engineering. I mean, why don’t we just say we’re not gonna have a 2020.

Model your Camaro. Let it be like we’re not making a new one, and then eventually in five, 10 years, we’ll bring it back because what’s old is new again. Right? And the Camaro will be hotness again. What it is, is the pony wars are over usher in the donkey trials because that’s where we’re gonna end up with a bunch of mules.

Horrible. Ah, well look for your Camaro. S U v starting in 2025. Bye-bye. Camaro in 2025, but the 2024 model year technically starts in August, September timeframe. So does the Camaro disappear this summer at the turn of the new year, or do we get a whole nother year, a whole nother summer out of the six gen Camaro before it finally goes away?

Honestly, couldn’t tell you the last time I saw Camaro on the road. That’s true. You don’t see ’em that often. Maybe everybody’s holding onto ’em. They’ve all turned into garage [00:43:00] Queens. Who knows, maybe if they are hiding in garages. Ford has an answer to that, especially if you don’t make your payments.

They have patented a self repossessing car technology. Oh God. To have their cars drive themselves away, taking another job away from hardworking people. Alternatively, also, the car could drive itself to a junkyard if it costs too much to be repossessed. No. Are you serious? I mean, I guess they could drive it anywhere they want off a cliff.

I mean, . They’re not saying that they’re going to do this or install a software, but apparently they’ve come up with a technology, and so of course they’ve thrown their patents on it to block other people from this. I mean, it’s inevitable, right? Like everything’s remotely controlled. Well, I know Tesla did this where you could call the car to come to you kind of thing, which was reminiscent of 1988 Batman, where he summons the Batmobile and it just drives to him wherever he was.

Well, the RAM does something similar. It’s got stalker mode and the truck will follow behind you like a puppy. Are you serious? No, I’m serious. Yeah. Yeah. I [00:44:00] learned something new. Every time we get together, I forget what it’s called, I’m making fun that it’s called stalker mode. It’s something akin to that, and it’s literally because they expect us to be a construction site vehicle, the new Ram ev.

And so while you are out walking across the site, you can set the truck to follow you at a slow speed and hope it doesn’t run you over. I was gonna say, what happens if you trip and fall? Does it just plow over top of you? If you’re going across the construction site and you want your truck to go with you, why don’t you just.

Drive it. , we’re too good for that. Now, Brad, nobody drives anymore. We’re like dinosaurs. We actually touch our steering wheels. I’m gonna spend $80,000 for a truck to have it follow behind me. What sense does that make? In fairness, they could be doing a walk down of something where they need to be closer to the equipment, but the car could be following down the path and meet them the other end.

You know what else would. If you parked your $85,000 truck in a safe location where it might not get damaged, and use the golf cart [00:45:00] that’s on the construction site to go wherever you’re going. , can you train the truck to roll over and sit and stay too? If you’re that Hummer driver from last month, you could roll it right off on embankment.

Yeah, you can teach to roll over. Sorry, a digress on Ford’s patent to repossess your car remotely, because none of that matters. What boggles my mind is that we’re wasting the thought energy on this kind of shenanigans versus putting it towards something else that would be more beneficial to the automotive industry.

How to protect ourselves from ai. That’s what we need to do. Robot revolution is coming. What if you’re in the car? While it’s being repossessed. Yeah, I didn’t think about that. I guess you’re going on a joy ride. . Are you like locked in there babe? Let me out. It’s like ki when it would lock the doors and go into pursuit mode, right?

It’s like, boom. Done. You better pay your bills people. That’s all I gotta say. You can see that follow behind option being good for the cops. You know when they’re chasing the guys in Florida on foot on their [00:46:00] lawnmowers, then the police car can just follow behind the officer until they’re ready to detain them and then they don’t have to walk ’em all the way back in a drunken stupor to the backseat of their explorer.

See the trickle effect of this technology, it’s a lot better to have the car follow them than to just drive it. Well, we’re gonna switch to Asian domestic news as we like to call it, that encompasses our Japanese brands, Koreans and and others. And I thought this next bit was pretty shocking if I do say so myself.

It’s a bit of a turn. So it says, Toyota C says that quote, silent majority of auto industry is doubting EV only future. Which is interesting cuz Porsche said it’s not abandoning its ice engines. Right? And they’re sticking their money where their mouth is because they’re developing eels and partnering with left, right, and center to do that.

But I also thought I read something recently that B M W has has turned about face and said that they are going to also keep investing in internal combustion engines. So the pendulum is [00:47:00] swinging back to some degree because it’s not the panacea we all thought it was gonna be. Maybe just, maybe if only the governments would get on board with reality.

Yeah, no, they’re too busy trying to ban state by state the sale of new petrol cars and craziness like that. And coming from Toyota, this could be a misleading headline because we’re taking it. We’re assuming, oh, Evie, only future. You don’t believe that. So that means. ice engine. Well, Toyota has hybrids.

Toyota has hydrogen engines. Right? Those are all non EV only, so yeah. Yeah. What are they really talking about here? Are they just talking about a future where you have multiple options and a mixed bag? Yes, and you have proper use cases for the different technology, which I think is appropriate. There’s no one size fits all and there’s no one solution for everybody.

Think you need different types for different markets. Agree. If you look at Toyota’s lineup right now, do they actually have. Full ev, or is it mostly hybrids? They’re all hybrid. I don’t think [00:48:00] they have a full EV at all. It doesn’t sound like they even plan on producing one. No, because the BZ four x I believe is, what the hell is that?

All electric and that’s kind of like RAV four ish. It’s another one of these compact crossover mini SUV V thingies. I guess we’ll see how it all plays out. Maybe that about face that you’re talking about Tanya, which we’ve all sort of suspected at the end of the day was probably gonna happen anyway when they can’t harvest any more lithium or whatever else.

Maybe it is a stall tactic to develop a synthetic fuel to come up with an alternative hybrid to come up with hydrogen that’s stable at room temperature and you know, non-volatile and God knows what else. You know, all these things that are being developed out there and somebody’s gotta be first to market.

Right now I think the easy button is ev and I’ve been thinking that for a while, right? It’s like, oh well it’s like a remote controlled car. Throw some batteries in, it runs till they run out, put some new batteries in it, keep running it. if it was that simple. Yes. But these other technologies are still being developed.

There are a lot longer term, more positive [00:49:00] solution, especially some of the hydrogen solutions that are out there. I think I’m with the silent majority on this one. I don’t think EV only is the future. I think. Like you’ve said many times before, there is room for all different types of drive, trains and power plants in this ecosystem.

It’s just a matter of which one you’re more comfortable with at the end of the day. I think you’ll like this one since you were so excited about the the N 75, N 74 vision. No, but even the other end, the E v six end or whatever. Oh, the sob. The car shows like the n Kona were super cool. Well, everyone liked the I EQ five.

Oh no, don’t tell me. Won’t you like an I EQ five N even better? Yes, I would. That’s. Awesome. So it’s still in camo mode, so they haven’t fully released kind of how they’ll tweak the body and all that stuff, but apparently it’s gonna have like drift mode . That’s awesome. Now the question becomes, when is Terry Newville gonna drive one of these and complain about it on the WRC stage?

They [00:50:00] don’t have a lot of information on it though, cuz it’s still kinda in development. They are saying it should be around 600 horsepower . What? That’s awesome. That’ll be really interesting to see how that all lines out. Now since we’re talking about the ION EQ five, I shared a photo with you guys in our J D M channel on Discord.

Is that actually the way the rear hatch of the ion opens? Please tell me. That’s actually a broken car I’ve never seen. Open on one of those. I was not aware that it slides up over the roof. That is bizarre. This is a question I have, like why reinvent the wheel? I mean, what was wrong with two little air shocks and a hinge?

Now you’re making the rear hatch slide up over a glass roof. I mean, it could still be a hinge mechanism that lifts and unfolds the arms back down on itself and then come to a stopping point on the roof, I guess. . It’s hard to tell what the mechanism [00:51:00] is from the photo, but yes, at the end of the day, we don’t need laser beams for windshield wipers.

Case of point O. Okay. But let’s just say I am the type of person that likes to have like a tool roof rack, and I wanna put some extra camping gear in there because not everything fits in my eye on EQ five, because I have two extra passengers with me. How exactly does one get to the beer cooler in the trunk with the tool roof rack on.

You don’t. Oh, okay. But I also believe that there’s something bizarre about that photo because I think in a quick search of I EQ five trunk, they all live normally. So I do not know what the heck that person maybe modified it. Oh, I see. We get the static version. That’s the trunk that opens normally.

That’s a stance trunk right there. When you, when you put 27 degrees of camera on that thing, you need the trunk to go up over the roof. It’s a, geez. That’s special. Well, speaking of not understanding, I feel like the EV market is constantly [00:52:00] changing. Every time we turn around, they’re talking about shifting the dates as to when petrol car’s gonna be banned.

States are talking about banning on a local level whether or not petrol car’s gonna even be sold. How does this affect the used car market? We know the prices on bringer trailer are already astronomical. It’s absolutely insane, but there might be a little bit of hope for all of us. There was a new bill introduced in the US House of Representatives to prevent the ban of ice powered vehicles.

It’s headed up by Pennsylvania Republican, John Joyce. He introduced House of Representatives Bill 1435, and it’s titled, preserving the. Vehicle Purchases Act. And the bill is designed to protect Americans rights to choose the technology that powers their motor vehicles. It was introduced in response to the CARB or the California Air Resources Board’s plan to ban the sale of new internal combustion engines by 2035.

And there’s a lot of other states that are following the suit. I say right on. I don’t see why the government should be [00:53:00] dictating what kind of cars we buy. You vote with your wallet as people say, if you wanna buy ev, buy an ev. If you wanna buy a Carbureted car, buy a Carbureted car. I don’t have a problem with it, but I’m glad that somebody’s doing something about it.

And you can learn more about it on the Performance Racing Industries website in conjunction with sema. So you can get a performance racing.com to check it out, or check the link in our show notes to learn more about this new bill that hit the house floor on March the four. What did you learn about the insurance companies and electric vehicles there, Tanya?

Well, it sounds kind of scary because they’re basically saying some pretty minor fender vendors can basically just total your car , meaning what would’ve been minor and repairable on a traditional powered vehicle is suddenly a big issue because you do not fully understand whether or not the batteries have been compromised in any way, which is obviously very dangerous cuz you don’t want a situation where suddenly they burst into flames or another small impact creates an issue.

[00:54:00] So that’s a problem. These cars getting into fender benders and then just basically being written off and ending up in Scrapyards and now this whole was supposed to be super good and helpful to the environment and. We’ve got all this waste. Not to say that ice engines don’t end up as waste in junkyards two, but there’s far less precious metals that were harvested and put into them.

The more disturbing thing reading through this was around the in general insurance and premiums and things like that, because it sounded like, well, here’s another reason why the rest of us have higher insurance premiums is cuz there’s people driving around in EVs that nobody knows what to do with them.

Nobody knows really how the insurance breakdowns work, and are they really being scrapped when they shouldn’t be, and that’s just higher cost and this, that and the other. I’m like, you know what? Then I’m glad Tesla has its own insurance. Y’all go figure that out yourselves and don’t make me pay more just because you have an ev.

It goes back to sort of the legislation part of the conversation. What I’d like to see [00:55:00] happen is maybe some legislation passed to force the insurance companies. To separate the rates between the ICE folks and the EV folks because I don’t wanna pay for their issues because I’m still driving an ice car and I get it.

If you get a small scratch on these batteries and you gotta total the car, it’s like the clams shell on the Lotus E lease, you get the slightest ding in it and they total the whole car because of the way it’s made. And we shouldn’t be beholden to that. I get it. The bills are high. You know, you gotta have a write off an $85,000 ev.

Well, something’s gotta give here. That’s not my fault. I didn’t make you go buy that $85,000 car E. Exactly. But then again, why are these things $85,000? Like you’ve created this whole weird ecosystem, but then it’s all disproportionate now because what happens when the Tesla hits me and weighs five?

Thousand pounds and comes at my less than 3000 pound Volkswagen like a torpedo and crushes it. I’m not gonna get [00:56:00] Jack. They’re gonna end up totaling the Tesla because of unforeseen damage to the batteries and all that kind of thing. But I walk away with, with what my premiums are, not commiserate to the type of payout that they’re gonna receive.

So in my mind it’s like, you total my car, you’re gonna give me 50 bucks. It’s always been that way. I don’t ever see it as fair. We pay all this money into these insurance systems. You actually need the money, which is supposed to help you either fix or buy a new car. They’re like, you can’t have your money, but what are you talking?

We’re not gonna give you any, you’re gonna give 50 bucks. You know? I don’t know. It’s like legal thievery. The other part of the article I, I found there was just a snippet in there that was like, well, you know, but really this is really a small percentage of these EVs that are ending up in this manner because EVs are general.

Safer than ice. They are involved in fewer accidents because of all this technology. I’m like, really? Because as far as I know, the technology is forward facing. So if some person comes barreling at you from behind or sideswipes, you don’t think the nannies do a [00:57:00] damn thing for you. , they’re equally able to be in an accident as anybody else.

Yeah. They’re vulnerable. Just like anything else. Yeah. Yeah. And people can turn those nannies off. So if they’re driving it like anything else, then they’re as vulnerable as anything else. So don’t give me that excuse. Oh, well this is really not like, okay. Sure. And that’s the other thing I wonder about all these sensors and, and lidar and radar and all this stuff that they’re using on these cars, especially in traffic, to your point, all those sensors on the front of the car.

So when does it switch over? To the point where now you are liable as the ice driver because maybe you changed lanes too closely to the autonomous self-driving level 15 torpedo that just hit you and now it’s your fault. Because it used to be like in the old days, if you got rear-ended, nine times outta 10, the other driver was at fault just because of, you know, you needed to be paying attention, stopping distances, all that.

Some things can’t be overcome, but in this case, they can be like, well, the data from the sensor shows that you were [00:58:00] six inches closer than. Recommended when you change lanes in front of that vehicle. I wonder how all that’s gonna play out, how the technology is going to be manipulated by the insurance companies.

The further we go along with all this stuff. What a hot mess. Like I don’t envy the actuaries or whoever it is that is in charge of figuring out these insurance tables and all this stuff, cuz I’m sure it can’t be fun. But please don’t pass the price down. Jumps . . But fun fact, since you mentioned lidar. Oh, so I had an interesting revelation last night actually as I was driving home in the evening hour.

So it was dark outside. I was on three lane divided highway cruise control, my room business, very light traffic, handful of us on the road. I had a radar detector in the car it was on and all of a sudden it started going off laser and it’s a very shrill noise when that happens. And so it was going off like bells and whistles, I like to say.

Cause that’s what it sounds like. I didn’t really need to slow down cuz I wasn’t doing anything offensive. Right. I [00:59:00] wasn’t worried, but obviously I was looking around and okay, I don’t see anybody laser works. It has to be targeted at you. So normally the guy’s got the gun and he’s pointing at you and that’s when the laser registers.

But I’m looking around. It goes off again. It goes off again and I’m like, , what in the world? There’s nobody around. By now, I should have passed somebody, or should have seen taillights up ahead, you know, blah, blah, blah. You know, one car in front of me, there’s a car behind me, and I recognize it right away because of the shape of the headlights.

It was a lucid air. Oh. And I was like, oh, interesting. There’s a lucid behind me, you know? Oh, cool. And as I’m freaking lasers going up over and over again, and he’s slowly creeping closer and closer behind me, and then he gets over changes. Lanes goes around me, it all stops. He goes in front of me, it’s all gone.

And I went, oh my goodness. He was self-driving or something. It’s using some sort of nanny. And the laser was beaming at me, and the radar detector was incessantly picking it up because he was shooting lidar at. and then I realized [01:00:00] all the times that it’s going off on K band, which it does in the most random places when you’re on the highway, which makes no sense cuz there’s absolutely no one around and no reason for it to be going off.

A lot of the other nannies of the self-driving and the automatic cruise control and all that stuff and all these EVs are operating off of K bands and things like that. It’s all being picked up by your radar detector. So what you’re saying is now the radar detector has a dual purpose, a picking up Beauford T Justice, hiding in the bushes, but also the Tesla that’s stalking you in traffic.

That’s not actually driving their car. Exactly. So now that torpedo coming at you, you have an early warning indication. Oh, it’s like a submarine. It’s like torpedoing. Woo done. Oh God. Get outta the way. Lemme translate for you. . . Oh, that’s okay. Cuz the steering wheels are falling off the model wise. They wouldn’t be able to hitch.

Anyway, when I realized what happened at Lucid Air, I wanted to get back in front of him and see if it was like to confirm and be like, yes, it’s going off again. It’s definitely his [01:01:00] lidar, but I wasn’t gonna accelerate in case there was a a real threat out there. . Well, you did some textbook research to verify it so it’s all.

Well, before we get into Tesla Gate, let’s hit up Brad’s favorite section, lost and Found, where he scours the internet looking for the newest old car available on dealership lots. Please tell me that Cadillac is still out there. Yes, the Cadillac is still there. Great. Chevrolet? Mm-hmm. . We need to get them as a sponsor.

I mean, how much free air time have we given Gray Chevrolet at this point? Apparently none, because no one’s buying that car. They’re not getting any business from us. Don Wer, if you’re listening, there is 88 to fill with your name on it. It’s not an ante. He’s not interested. Oh, that’s true. He’s not interested.

That four GT is still out there at the low, low, low price of $450,000. I swear it’s come down every time we talk about that car. The prices come down. Nope. Four. That’s it. The only thing new on here, new, new to the list, is a 2004 Nissan Xterra. XE V six [01:02:00] at Beckon Maston Kia. None of that was exciting. Not at all.

There’s a couple Dodge Avengers, a Fiat 500. Yeah. No Dodge Darts. All right, well, whatever. Maybe in April, as we get all our showers in preparation for our mayflowers, something will blossom in the used car market. Wondering where you were going with that. Maybe somebody will buy that Cadillac after all, but it’s time.

Do you know what time it is? Tesla Gate time. Oh,

we would be remiss. That’s what time it is. He the gate. Wait, what? How dare you? They’ve never had to recall a single vehicle ever. I think this finally counts as a Did this pass to, I mean, come on. I’m sorry. They don’t wanna count any of the software cuz it’s software. They don’t wanna count any of the other stuff as recalls.

But I think this is definitely a recall when you forget to put the steering wheel lock pin bolt in, and so your steering wheel comes off. . I don’t think a software over the air patch fixes this one. Nope. Is it a recall if the owners all [01:03:00] die? Ooh, well, I don’t think anyone was severely injured. Which aisle and bin at Home Depot do I get the lock pin for the steering wheel?

Their local Home Depot was sold out aisle 12. It’s somewhere between the cabinet knobs and Thele locks. You’ll find the lock bed for the steering wheel. But yes, in fact, model wise have a reported defect of over 120,000 models. That have been sold? Wait, they sold that many, apparently. Wow. But yes, there is a defect because the steering wheel is basically held on via friction.

So a hard enough pull force will disengage it from where it should be. Two Tesla’s credit. We know somebody that went on track in a Miata that had the similar setup and survived Watkins Glen. So I’m just gonna leave it right where it is. It’s doable. Flip the car really quickly into autopilot or you know, whatever.

Self-driving . I mean, the steering wheel doesn’t need to be attached if you’re not talking. Steering wheel doesn’t need to be attached for it to drive itself, I would imagine. E Exactly. [01:04:00] Exactly. Well, last time we talked about Tesla gate. We were on the precipice of Investors’ day. Yes, we were. So what came of Investors’ day?

What is Brad gonna buy? How much more Dogecoin is he going to spend? Apparently are saying that they’re gonna release a $20,000 Tesla. I’ve heard this before. Yes. It’s the $30,000 one, but now they can do it for $20,000 I think because they made it smaller. Oh. They cut the rear end off of it. It actually looks like they cut it where the rear door should be, and then just push the front in the rear together.

Tell me you don’t think that What I just described is not that photo. Oh, that’s different than the other one that they showed. Who knows? They’re all like weird spy photos. Yes. The original one was like this. Weird goldish Corolla thing looking thing with four door. This next photo is like missing the rear doors and it looks like chopped together.

I mean, this one would make more sense throughout the $20,000 mark all in, they’re all ugly. The red one that they showed from [01:05:00] autocar.co uk is much better looking than the one day you’re showing us. But either way, I’m not a fan of any of this. And again, I don’t believe any of it because here we go, $20,000 Tesla, I, we haven’t seen that yet.

Wow. Tesla owners are in for a big shock. Well, um, maybe, I guess it was weird the way the article was written. It was like, ain’t no big thing. It’s all good. Okay, but you’re losing a $7,500 tax credit to make your car cheaper. But somehow it’s like no big thing. It’s fine. It’s all good. Like, okay, apparently that’s happening because the legislation or the rules or the tax credits are available if everything is made in in country and the batteries are coming out of China manufacturing.

And so at least the model three and I guess the why can no longer apply for this $7,500 credit. So what you’re saying, . Anybody looking at a Tesla, it just got $7,500 more expensive. I would think so. But then they keep saying that they’ve been lowering their prices too at the same time. Like another thousand here, a thousand there.

I’m like, okay. Hokey pokey. Didn’t they just raise their prices though? [01:06:00] It’s like the Christmas time specials where they raise the prices in October by like 10% and then they give you 5% off, so they’re still 5% ahead. You gotta wonder sometimes it’s like it’s on sale for the regular price. Yay. Many times it’s been said that Musk is following the Apple model and we joke about it, but it’s true.

Think about it. The iPhone blah, blah, blah, just came out and it’s $93 million, and then next week on Verizon, it’s like trade in your old phone for a $360 credit, we’ll give you a new iPhone 14 for the low low price of 4 99. Well, how much does it really cost? Is it $1,200 or is it 4 99 plus my trade-in? If they’re following that kind of chicanery, none of this surprises me.

This whole month is just sort of disappointing. Maybe it’s because it’s the end of winter, spring has just arrived. It’s still cold, it’s still whatever. I’m just like, blah. All the news is blah. We’re kind of in the mid-year slump. If you think about it, if all new cars in the US come out in August, September, we’re at the mid-year mark, [01:07:00] we’re cresting it and now we get to ride to rollercoaster through the rest of the summer.

So I feel like my expectations are pretty low right now. Lower expectations. Oh, this means it gets worse. Depends on your point of view. Some people might think this event is good, this one didn’t make collector car guides. List of events that Brad talks about every month. It really should have. I swear I would go to this event.

Would you really go to this event? The thought of this scares me. Think about the people that go to car shows, right? , and then think about them like this. Stereotypes aside, this isn’t even static problems. This isn’t even stance problems. Okay. The annual meaning it happens more than once, but only once a year.

The annual nude as in naked nude. Car show. We’re not talking about the cars being nude. Nope. Talking about the people. . The best part is this is Wisconsin. Would you have said if someone just told you there’s an annual nude [01:08:00] car show going on in August, somewhere in the United States, would you have been like, yeah, it must be Wisconsin.

No. Florida No Florida, man. Exactly. It gets better. You gotta read into the event. Not that I wanna see pictures from previous events or anything like that. The Valley View Recreation Club hosts the annual nude car show for not one beautiful summer afternoon where you can gaze upon the Mustangs and the Ferrari and, and everything else that accompanies them.

No. Not one, not two, four days of fabulous buns, guns, and tars in the sun. Can you imagine? There must be other activities cause what could you possibly do for four days? Stop. Stop. Because this is gonna go off the rails. Other activities? We played corn hole . Hide the salami. , Wisconsin’s known for cheese. The naked car wash.

Ah, this cheese stands alone. Lemme tell you. Woo. Anyway, well if you’re interested, folks, August 12th, 2023 this [01:09:00] year, find it in a small village in Wisconsin Valley View Recreational Club. Just don’t forget that. Annual spelt with two Ns. When you Google that two Ns and you.

Every once in a while we gotta go there. And this month we got some rich people. Fangs, . This is like right not even rich people thing like this is Florida, man. I mean, it’s also lowered expectations. It checks all the boxes. I mean, I feel bad for this person. She’s so proud. I, that’s why I feel bad. Cause I’m like, I’m sorry that you’ve been failed in life.

I know the used car market is insane. I’m impressed that this car didn’t show up on Brad’s lost and found list. Let me paint a picture for you. It is this. Beautiful. Late nineties. Sea green, you know, sort of metallic. You’re not really sure what color to call it. It’s a Ford product. You know, one of those quality Fords from the late nineties.

But it’s not a [01:10:00] contour or like a Taurus s Hho or even a Mustang. No, no, no. This new proud owner picked herself up a 1998 Ford Escort for the load low price of $289 a. And how long is this loan for Brad? Seven years. Can you imagine? Did this car even make it another seven years? 84 months at $289 a month?

To put that in real numbers, $24,276 for 1998 Ford Escort. This thing was worth like $500. I would have rather gone on a long-term loan agreement with Hertz and just rented a car every month for this kind of money. It’s sad is what it is. And it’s criminal. Exactly. Is this predatory lending? Oh yeah. Sign right here.

You’re not a robot, right? You gotta check that box. Almost like payday level scam on this car. This person got so taken advantage of. Disgusting. Hey, but they went viral on the YouTubes and the interwebs and all that kind of [01:11:00] stuff, so you don’t wanna go viral like this. You be famous or infamous. Look for $289 a month.

They even put a big red bow on the hood. You’re damn right they did. And look at those hubcaps, those look new. That has gotta be worth something. Those bows aren’t cheap. $289 a month cheap. It’s a good 300 bucks for that bow. Yes, but those people were laughing all the way to the bank. It makes me angry.

How taken advantage of this woman was. I mean, wherever she bought this from. Like the piece of crap human being that was like, yeah, let’s do this only in Florida, right? Because now it’s time we move south and talk about alligators and beer.

You know what? It’s kind of a disappointing month for Florida man, and I think it is the weather. There’s a lot of news about alligators right now. Alligators [01:12:00] knocking on people’s doors, people standing in the water, feeding a pork loin sandwich to an alligator. Why would you do that? That sounds like you don’t want your arm or the rest of you

I’m thinking like it’s getting warmer. The seasons are changing. I mean, it’s always the same temperature in Florida, but I guess the alligators also have seasons probably, you know, maybe they’re coming out and so the Florida man is emerging also, so we don’t have as much out of Florida right now, unfortunately.

Well, there’s some good ones here though, and I don’t recall if this one was Florida or not. Probably is. This picture is unreal. It’s one of those pictures thousand words, and it’s a pick them up. I don’t know what kind of pickup truck this is. That’s a Ford. That’s a Ford. The Ford F-150, the Visibil Air.

They’re all the same Ford pickup truck. I don’t even know what he is got in the back, but it’s an SUV of some sort. Zalia Tesla, and it’s sideways and it’s in truck bed. Roped around that truck bed. I’m impressed. I am too. Because the rear springs are taking all that weight and [01:13:00] the front end is still on the ground and he’s going somewhere.

He’s going somewhere. He’s on the move. Yeah. . He’s going places. As Brad always likes to say, if it fits, he sits right. In this case, if it fits, it ships u p s ain’t got nothing on this guy. There’s so many questions here. How did they load it this way? Who thought this was a good idea? How long are those straps?

What’s the tenile strength of those straps? What happens the first time he goes on the highway and takes an off ramp? What is the side of that vehicle? Is now resting on its side look like, are there fluids still in the engine? Are they still in the engine? ? I feel like this is a movie and they’re filming Transport of Florida.

I want to understand, I really, because this car, this vehicle, this suv looks in good condition was from the visible body panels, but I can’t imagine it’s sitting. Side that, that looks good anymore. It’s a one one scale. Hot Wheels. It could be Photoshop, could be, but I don’t think so. Probably not. This is insane.

This is like a candid camera [01:14:00] shot too. So like someone was like running and be like, get my phone out. It was on his lawnmower in the shoulder, so it was okay. . Wow. Well this next one hits close to home. We haven’t had a, had a Maryland person in a while. Maryland manned forever. Maybe this is the first Maryland man.

I’m not sure, but I think it might be. It might be the first man in what a. So come in with a bang , because this Marilyn man who ran outta gas on an interstate, I’d like to know which 1, 6 95, where all the shit happens. Oh man. Jesus Christ. Everything happens on 6 95. Okay, so he ran outta gas, pulled over as you should, and he is on the shoulder.

Obviously, I don’t know. He is waiting for somebody. What are you, what are you do in that situation? Do you just merely wait in your car? I mean, no, you probably shouldn’t. You should exit your vehicle and safely get on the other side of hopefully a barrier or guardrail because you never know when an errant driver will just rear-end you and that would be catastrophic.

So he at least he did step one, he got out of his vehicle. However he sat behind his vehicle, assembled his drum set and just began banging on them drums. I [01:15:00] love the comment block on this. It’s so hashtag dad jokes and it’s like, that’s what I. A traffic jam. What possesses people to do stuff like this? Did he want to be a meme?

Is that what it is? I mean, I would’ve loved to have passed that on 6 95. I just, I don’t know what I, I would’ve been, would’ve been one of those double take moments. did. I just see that No one would’ve believed you too. I would’ve been like, guys, you know what I just saw, I was on 6 95 and dude was drumming.

He was on the shoulder with drums. Y’all been like, nah, you don’t know what you saw. Uhhuh , Uhhuh . That right there. Right there. So this last one, we actually haven’t gone across the ocean in a while. Ooh. We’re hopping the pond and we’re going to Italy. Oh. Is this our first Italian man? Well, no. So this isn’t an Italian man.

This is an American. In Italy. . What did they do to that? Por Fiat, because you can bring the man outta Florida, but you can’t bring to Florida. And that’s a man . [01:16:00] I’m not saying he was from Florida, but I’m not saying he wasn’t from Florida. Oh, geez. Do not know where he’s from. However, he, I guess, rented a Ferrari.

Okay. As I’m sure you can do, and decided in Florence, he was just gonna like drive it out into a piaz. Piazza. The cars don’t go into, they just like park it cuz obviously he’s entitled. So that’s a bold move. Cotton, they only gave him $500 ticket. I mean that’s getting off pretty good. If you’ve ever dealt with European parking and how much it costs, that was probably a bargain.

Yeah. They made a big deal that it was a historic piazza. I’m like, everything in Italy’s historic. So like, okay next. Yeah, it’s all ancient, right? I mean, come on, be on the lookout. Aaron’s Ferrari is driving into Piazzas in Italy. You know what? He listened to our show. He heard about that other fool that drove down the Spanish steps.

Yes. And he got lost trying to find them because he wanted to drive the Ferrari down the Spanish steps like the other idiot did. He said, you know what? Screw it. There’s a nice cafe bistro over here. I’m just gonna grab lunch. Forget this [01:17:00] noise. But that isn’t it for Florida, man. So breaking news, for those of you Netflix subscribers out there, a limited series is coming on April 13th of this year.

Yes. That’s just a mirror, what, two, three weeks away. And that series is. Florida, man. No, it’s not Tiger King Rebadged, is it? No. So it looks like from the synopsis and from the preview, it actually has a plot line and a main character and it’s taking place in Florida and they’re somehow going to bring in a lot of Florida man elements into what’s going on and how you ask how one of the shots in this trailer.

was this woman that I think had like the cigarette lighter in her hairspray can, and she turned it into a blow torch and she was trying to scare this raccoon away . And the raccoon like was just sitting there. It was like, what you doing? They’re bringing like crazy stuff in like that. I don’t know.

There’s gotta be alligators. I don’t know. It could be interesting. This sounds a little [01:18:00] bit too much like a reboot or continuation of that show. What was it called? My name is Earl. Do you remember that one? . . That’s that’s what I’m feeling here. This is like ex-cop who’s now like in trouble with gambling and so there’s some sort of like mob thing going on.

He is trying to get his life back on track and all this stuff and he has gotta go back to Florida and then the shit ensues. . It’s like the Florida man version of Magnum Pi . What is. I don’t know what this is, but you know what? Our goal is to watch it before the next drive-through so we can talk about it.

We will report back on Florida Mans the Netflix series. Maybe it has better luck than any of these Formula One shows that they’ve been coming up with. Speaking of which, it’s time we go behind the pit wall. We’ll talk about motor sports news. As we noted the last time, Kimmy is. Track house racing to go drive a Chevy, which doesn’t exist next year in nascar.

And then there’s Jensen Button and he’s signed up to race three [01:19:00] NASCAR Cup series races this year. And I just kept wondering myself, is he already that board with retirement? Yes. He’s done a lot. Right. And he hasn’t done this. That’s true. Well, I mean, sports car, whatever. I have my biases. Good for him. I mean, there’s been plenty of other Formula one drivers, one Pablo Montoya and others that have gone to nascar.

So let’s see what Button can do. He’s gotta pay for those old Nigel Mantle error race cars at some point. So you know, whatever. They’re not cheap. Meanwhile, in the glorious drama filled world of formula, uh, the season is officially underway, right? We are two races in and it’s not looking good. , oh, oh geez, what?

Now? It’s not looking good. If your name isn’t Red Bull . Oh. Although I will say Ashton, Martin’s doing pretty well though, that’s for sure. Alonzo has podium twice now this season for Aston Martin. He switched over teams. He left Alpine last season, got the ride in Aston Martin, the first race. It was hilarious because in Bahrain, I.

He [01:20:00] was dying when it was like turned to and Stroll nearly took him out. and I was like, here we go again. He rear-ended him a little bit. He didn’t even know they I, I think they probably purposely didn’t tell him who did it cuz he had no idea. I think they like told him at the end of the race cuz he probably would’ve blown a gasket.

No damage. Something like that. They kept going. He finished third in that race. He finished third in Jah, red Bull one two. The big shakeup was Perez beating out. First happened taking a his I think fifth formula, one first place podium. A little drama there with the teams because Max had some issues during qualifying, something broke or something or other.

So he ended up like starting 15th, had to make his way back up through the crowd. He made into second. There wasn’t quite enough time to really challenge Perez and come first. However, there were team orders to maintain pace and Verin was like, F that noise, I’m getting fastest lap so I can get that extra point.

And B, number one in the [01:21:00] championship points, two races in. And that’s exactly what happened. They actually gave orders to Perez, you’re fine, just keep your pace. And yeah, he was a little bit pissed about that. So some interesting. Team orders across all the teams too. There were lots of miscommunications.

There was the penalty thing that happened with Alonzo on this one. He started on the grid box, slightly left, and so that was kind of a false start infringement and he had a five second penalty to serve, served it under the full course yellow, which the rule book is just all sorts of all over the place.

And if that was legal or not, or not, . And so he finished third and then they took it away and then they reread the rules and some of our probably got paid and so they put him back on the podium. So Mercedes didn’t get a podium. . And so there you go. He got his hundredth podium. He’s in the Century Club on that one in his career.

And there you go, four or five, Mercedes and Ferrari was somewhere right behind them in six hours. , they finished and they didn’t catch fire. That’s important. Those are two things this time, [01:22:00] unlike in Bahrain, where La Cleric did suffer a mechanical failure and was not able to finish the race. So this is progress.

Both cars did finish. They were once again in the top 10. So that is good news go far. Last time we really dove deep into Formula One, the tail end of last year, we had good news to share about. , you know, they picked up some new sponsors. Now they’re allegedly sponsored by Money Graham. You know, there’s that whole episode we devoted to that, but they picked up another sponsor and no, it’s not Gray Chevrolet.

And if you’re listening, wheat would like to be sponsored by you. Asai, like, I didn’t know. You could be sponsored by fruit pulp that you put in a smoothie at Smoothie King as. , whatever. I, I don’t know. They, they offered money. Is that how you pronounce it, by the way? Well, how did you wanna pronounce it? I don’t, no, I’m just, I, I I have no idea.

I believe it’s asay. It is asay. All seriousness. The parent company, Oak Berry, becomes the official asai partner. Alongside of Money Graham to the [01:23:00] HOAs Formula One team and I’m like, good for them. You guys are picking up the weirdest sponsors you could possibly find. I mean, who’s next? Maybe Charman Toilet Paper will sponsor HOAs.

Not Rich Energy anybody, but I didn’t even know Oak Berry was a thing. I don’t even know where their stores are. Maybe they just produce Asai for, you know, smoothie King or some of these other places. I mean, I don’t know, there’s a whole list of their official sponsors at the bottom. I mean the ones you expect Pelli cuz of the tires and Alpine Star cuz of the driving suits and all that kind stuff.

There’s some other weird, uh, did you know that they’re sponsored by Chipotle ? No. The McDonald’s, right. I’m not really sure who the Palm Angels are or Open Seas or TIC markets. Like these are some really like random sponsors. I mean I’m sure every team has like majors and minor sponsors, but I kind of just look at the size of the logos, especially on this press release.

And like the MoneyGram one is just like, ah. It’s huge. But the rest of these, I, I dunno. I mean, if someone’s [01:24:00] giving you money, you don’t turn your hand. Right. Never bite the hand that feeds you, except if you’re also trying to make money selling stuff to the Russians. Hmm ha. And a little bit of trouble.

Granted at the time they were selling stuff to the Russians, but they also had Russian sponsorship and a Russian driver, and it was all before the war, and they’re very adamant about delineating the timeline. As soon as the war happened, then they cut ties and got rid of the contract and got rid of the driver and everything and stopped selling equipment to the Russians.

Do you really believe it? I do. Probably, I feel, I feel like this is, I feel like they’re just grasping at headlines to just get more notoriety and pick up some other obscure sponsor. Speaking of notoriety. Yeah. Speaking of notoriety. Yeah. There’s an untold rivalry in Formula One that people want to bring to light.

They want to educate us on the battle between Gillsville Nev Andoni. Did you guys know this was a thing? I, I mean, I was a little young at the time that they were racing each other, [01:25:00] so no, I wouldn’t have appreciated it. It was a thing. I wasn’t born . Yeah, but like, nobody even talks about this. It, it feels like the quietest rivalry nobody ever heard of.

Are we just, again, to Brad’s point, are we sort of grasping for Formula One drama to paint a picture of two guys that. aren’t even alive anymore. Yeah. I believe this is what they call a slow news cycle. Ah, that makes way more sense. Well, they’re gonna make a documentary about it and when it comes out, why don’t we take a look at it?

Well, it’s out already. The problem is it’s not out in this country. So the question will be is if they will put it on the service that we could watch. Cuz right now it’s on a UK based service. I bet motorsport.tv you’ll carry it or something like that, but you gotta pay a premium for it. Popular and Formula One has always been very high everywhere outside of, you know, yeah.

The United States essentially, or at least in Europe. Very high. Right. So there’s more. Like even then, maybe the popularity is even growing, right? So yes, there’s probably to some extent people are trying to take advantage of the F1 train and [01:26:00] making more of these documentaries. But on the other hand, like why not?

I mean, this is interesting stuff. It’s a documentary, so a lot of it is real footage put together, and that’s kind of neat to see the history and how it was back then and all that. Yeah, for sure. I mean, there’s always opportunities to learn more things, and that’s sort of the point of this show too, is it’s those untold stories, bringing them to the surface.

Everybody has a story. I am curious to dive further into this. It’s sort of one of those like, well, didn’t really know that was a thing, so let’s regroup on this at a later date and share it with our audience and see what we thought about the Vil Nuv Piron rivalry. I mean, I can’t imagine. Up there with hunt and lada or pro anden fun facts.

Apparently, Didier Peroni’s son, who I believe he died before he was born, I don’t think they were married, but his partner, whatever, named him Jill, in honor of Bill Nev, and he works on Mercedes as an engineer on Mercedes F1 team. So full circle in that family. Interesting. Speaking of Formula [01:27:00] One, I came across, admittedly not listened to F1 Beyond the Grid podcast, but apparently they’ve done an interview with Alene Frost, which I don’t know how often he does these.

But pretty long podcast cuz it’s almost an hour. And I was scrolling through some of the other podcasts, which are much shorter. I have it in my download list. At some point I will listen to it cuz I’m kind of interested to see what they’re gonna talk about. , I mean, when you have the professor on your show, I think you just let ’em talk.

Your 30 minute format goes out the window when you have a, oh, I’m sure. A celebrity of that caliber on the show. Yeah. I’m curious too. I hate to say morbid curiosity. I side on the Senate side of that rivalry. I don’t know, maybe we’ll learn a thing or two. Brad, your charter this year has been to keep up with W R C News.

So round three, Mexico just concluded. What do you think? I’m having a hard time staying interested if I’m gonna be completely honest with you. As I’ve said [01:28:00] numerous times, it’s the coverage. I can’t see enough of something to really bind somebody to like, like to root for or, or anything. It’s, I don’t know.

I did think it was funny on, you know, what happened to the Fords on Friday though? Oh my God. And the cars pulling in to Mexico, driving through that little city tunnel and, and everything. That was super cool. But I think the only way I’m really gonna bind a way to get invested in rally is going to one.

That’s a good option. I like that. You know, we’ve been talking about going to Pike’s Peak that’s on the docket for next year at this point. And it’s not quite the same as the world rally stages, but I’m telling you right now, if you were to actually watch the full coverage of a rally, you’d be so much more bored than just watching the recaps.

And that’s not because it isn’t exciting. It, it’s just. Overwhelming and you would just be like, oh my God, make this three days worth of content. Stop. That’s why I was surprised Mexico was so action packed, especially since it hasn’t been on the schedule in three years. And when they set [01:29:00] the stage, they took us back to 2020 and they showed O Tanex crash where he literally put his fiesta.

Underwater and you just watch it sinking from the onboard GoPros. I’m like, this is beautiful. Like it was so awesome for me. And this is, again, this is just my personal opinion. I feel like it’s the equivalent of coming into Grey’s Anatomy now, and missing the entire first 200 seasons of the show. Yeah, that’s what it feels like to me.

I have no frame of reference. I have no historical knowledge or background on any of these drivers or anything. Or rally itself. I don’t know what’s going on. . Yeah. Completely lost. And I’m trying so hard. The coverage of the cars racing and stuff is cool, but as far as understanding what’s going on, I have no idea.

Just go with it. Just embrace it. Right. And maybe it’s one of those things, if I just watch enough of it, it’ll eventually click. And Mexico was interesting. It’s very difficult, as you saw, it was sier. Race to lose. [01:30:00] He’s like, what, six time wrc Mexico winner, whatever. He was going for like one more to like really, you know, set him over the top, all this kind of thing.

And like we talked about, he skipped the last one altogether. He is like, I don’t even need to bother with that. So Seb was back and to your point, the Fords were having a terrible Friday. I mean, I love the commentator. There’s a stage called el cho latte and he goes, El cho latte the stage where the pumas melted.

And I was just like, that’s so true. Cause every one of them had a failure of some catastrophic sort or another. Some they could fix, you know, whatever. Yeah. The first one, was that one of the turbo pipes, right? Oh yeah. Car, just the turbo just stopped working. He picked a terrible place to stop. By the way, , I mean, right there with, with the dust.

He’s, he’s like basically two or three feet off the circuit and nobody can see him. Yeah, it was, nobody can see. It’s terrible. I felt so bad for him. By the end of Friday, he was like seven and a half minutes behind. There is no coming back from it. [01:31:00] There’s literally w r C two cars that are finishing in front of you, like that’s how far back you are, and I felt bad for him.

But then here we go. Crash it again. Takao. Did you see the roll? He rolled the Yaris again. again. This is like the second time in three races at least he stopped driving this time. A hundred percent. Yeah. He didn’t try to go while he was upside down. I don’t know if it’s bad luck or that just, he’s more of like a rookie still or whatever, but I’m just like, bro, I, I can’t wait to see him roll it again.

I mean, I Yaari mat has gotta be like pulling the, what’s left of his hair out of his head because these cars aren’t cheap. And for this guy to like destroy one, I’m trying to remember his name now, he was like a Scotsman and he would. Same thing every time he came out he would destroy a ciro in. Finally, after like six rounds, they cut him loose cuz they couldn’t afford to keep replacing the cars and they brought in another driver and all this kind of stuff.

Hey, I’m like, here we go again. Takamoto, if he doesn’t get this car on four wheels consistently, it’s not gonna end well for him [01:32:00] this year. That’s for sure. And then you got Pecka Lape, you tell me that you can’t get into it. The goddamn telephone pole landed on him. That wreck was out of control. Like it happened so fast and it knocked out the power in the area too.

They literally had to red flag the rally. I mean, that’s how bad it was because he’s in the middle of the road with a U-shape in his roof. Basically the roll cage is holding this electrical telephone post from decapitating him in a navigator. But again, it happened so fast and it was so unexpected. He lost the back end of the car and he literally just backed into it at full speed and, and that was all she wrote.

It was, it was just nuts. Absolutely nuts. So on top of that, the SCO ODAs are still kicking butt and WRC too. And Whoopi do, because there were so many retirements, you know, and breakdowns and and failures in this race. Seb won overall in Terry Newville podium. It’s like, whoa, okay, great. I felt like it was like y’all won by default and hopefully next time it gets better.

I mean, I can’t deny that the coverage is exciting, but as far as the [01:33:00] championships and the drivers and stuff like that, I don’t care about any of them. There’s no Volkswagen , well that’s the scota that’s in WRC two. I’m rooting for Hyundai right now. They are plagued with some issues cuz of the new hybrid system, but they were really strong last year and Ford’s got a new car and M Sport has generally dominated.

And I wanna see them. Deron and Toyota’s always the wild card. Like they’re super consistent. They’ve had the same car forever. They’re under new management, but the GAO racing team knows how to put together a good race car. So it’s a good fight between them. But I am rooting for the underdog. I am rooting for the Hyundais in this case, I just wanna see Terry Newville get out of his own head and stopped blaming the car and get back to driving kind of thing.

But Esa Papi, as long as he stays away from telephone poles, he might be okay. And by the way, folks, he walked away from that wreck. So amazing engineering in those cars to keep those drivers safe, that’s for sure. Moving on to IMSA and W E C, really quick, I just wanna highlight something really, really important.

You know, [01:34:00] Lamonds is about two months away, thereabouts. There are 16 hypercar in the Lamonds. right now. That’s pretty awesome. But you know who’s not gonna be there? Acura and B M W. No, I’m rather disappointed in that. And I wonder if it has to do with their performance at Rolex. And you know, obviously throughout the season so far, B M W is definitely lagging behind as we talked about and things like that.

But all the other major players are coming. PEO Ferrari with the No 4 9 9 P Porsche with the 9 63. There’s gonna be some fantastic cars running out there. And again, my whole thing about this is I wanna see Toyota Deron , but it’s anybody’s game, right? It’s anybody’s game. And we saw some real promise out of Ferrari at the Seabring.

12 hours. What did you guys think of? So I didn’t watch the whole thing. Yeah, I did tune in like right after the lead Acura one that was under [01:35:00] all those penalties for alleged tire air, deflate gate, whatever you wanna call it, issues at Daytona. That car lost a wheel, Whoopsies. So unfortunately they were out.

But then what later happened in like the last basically 18 minutes, the race was left was just like carnage, absolute carnage. And there’s a short YouTube video that captures the three minute moment, if you will, and took out like six cars off the lead lap. It was insane. Yeah, it was. It was basically like all the lead cars got wiped out in the last remaining few laps of the race.

It looked like one of our virtual racing leagues back in the day. Like it’s like such a Forza move to do what they did. Was it a racing incident? The guy swerved from one side to the other thinking he was gonna take the outside line, pass everybody on the outside that inner car was moving over. One could argue to set up his turn.

Yeah, to set up his turn to be where he was. One minute the dude’s on his right. Two cars [01:36:00] away. It’s nighttime. There’s head. There were a bunch of cars right there, and the next second dude’s on his left and the gap is closing to the grass. He goes off, he was done. There was no way, like, I don’t think he tried to be a torpedo, he wasn’t stopping.

But the best part, it looked like a video game because it was like all that stuff happened in the double bump and the guys in the grass and suddenly he ends up hitting him anyway. So you thought you got away from him and Nope. Here he comes and broadsides you. Yeah. And you’re not expecting that either.

So that guy was like, probably like Duh F just happened to me, , because he comes shooting through the grass onto the track, over the track. It just T-bones him off the other side of the track. It looked like a fours around. I’m telling you. It was just, I couldn’t believe it. I watched it so many times. I was like, this is unreal.

But the only camera angle that really showed what happened was luckily the helicopter view. Yeah. Because all the other ones were super deceiving as to what happened. Yeah. It made it look like some BS stuff was happening where it was. Intentional and all this, but like the helicopter view [01:37:00] was like pretty clear where it was like this was an unfortunate racing incident.

I don’t think that guy intended to cause an accident. And what was funny is the commentators climbing all over it. They, this guy, the guy, all this, they finally were like, oh, right, we, we, we got a backpedal. We gotta retract like everything we just said because we just saw the helicopter view. Uh, so sorry.

It looked really bad from like in-car. Yeah. Like track level footage. But from the helicopter footage it was like, oh damn, this was really just an unfortunate accident that created a. Chaos. That’s sort of the funny part about those commentators. This sort of like, look, before you leap on that one , they were taken by surprise.

They would have a delay in when they’re getting the footage too. Yeah. Well there’s one more bit of Motorsports news to share with you and that is the 2023 Cardboard Classic. If you’ve never seen this before, I cannot recommend these videos enough. I gotta thank one of our patriot and supporters, Sean, for sending this to us every year.

Cause I, it’s, I tend to [01:38:00] forget about it, but then when it comes full circle, I just love it. And I gotta say, there’s one part of this video, I think’s epic. I want to see the buildout on this cardboard vehicle. And it’s at the minute 21 mark. These guys built a. Back to the future DeLorean and send it down.

This ice luge shoot, whatever you wanna call it. The DeLorean was epic. That guy spent a lot of time on that. It looked good. I’d hate to send it down and crash down the ski slope thingy and you didn’t even get to see it run. You only sort of got to see it. I did love the working gulling doors. That was so awesome.

I’m like the amount of detail he put into that to run it down and basically hopefully not obliterate it before it got to the end. You gotta transport something like that in an enclosed trailer. How you gonna put that back on an open closed trailer? Put it sideways on the back of a F-150. That’s how you transport it.

It’s cardboard done way that much. Exactly. Blow away. It’s 60 miles an hour. perpendicular out the back of a Malibu or something. You know? It’s all good if you’ve never seen these before. I mean, they range from [01:39:00] mundane to insane on the scale of these cardboard creations and they send all sorts of people down on these things.

It’s just nuts. Where does this happen? Poconos . We should totally do this. Yeah, we should go there. I don’t, I don’t think I wanna participate in No, no, no, no. We should compete with what you build a cardboard 14 card, port nine 14 . See how that it only fits two people? Because some of these got like a school bus of people going down.

Yeah. And then on the other guy, it looks like he’s just going down on a sled. Those did the best . So there was one where it was like 30 people, a flat sheet, cardboard , and it was like all that weight’s real stable. So you guys are winning . This reminds me of the Red Bull flute talk. Yes. Yes. Yes. And to Tanya’s point, there’s something to be said about simplicity and design.

You know what I mean? That flat sheet of cardboard. But yes, the flu to, I missed the flu to, it’s another reason to watch Red Bull tv. I think GTM needs to commission a vehicle for this. I think we should do it. I’m gonna get project motoring on this. I [01:40:00] got it. I know exactly what we’re gonna build. Pontiac?

Aztec. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Cardboard. Pontiac, Aztec. It’s even the right color. It’s like middle-aged beige, , gray. Just like, just like Heisenberg. Yes. On that, we should probably wrap up with some local news and events, upcoming local news and events brought to us by collector car guide.net, the ultimate reference for car enthusiasts.

So let’s see what’s coming up for April. The Cruising Car Show season is ramping up with events like Jimmy Cone Chewies, the Damascus and Hagerstown Cars and Coffee, all starting on April 1st and second weekend and repeating throughout the season. Air Cool Volkswagen Show will be held at the Zimmerman Auto Driving Museum on April 8th.

There are a bunch of Mecu on time and road art auctions happening in April. The world Racing the Big John Music memorabilia collection, the Gem and Brenda Hoffman collection, and others closing by mid-April. So get your bids in now while you can. The I m Rrc [01:41:00] is hosting their eighth annual model car show on April 15th as part of opening weekend right after the Green Grand.

And tons more events like this and all their details are available over@collectorcarguide.net. That’s right. And now it’s time for hpd junkie.com Trackside report. So what’s coming out here early spring? Well, the track season has begun. It started as. Early as the beginning of March here on the East Coast.

The time Trialers over at emra, the Eastern Motor Racing Association, kick off their time trial season at Limerock Park on the 1st of April. They’ve switched up their season this year. They’re predominantly running at Limerock and Pocono, kind of alternating between the two locations for an action packed time trial season.

Meanwhile, the Washington DC region of S E C A kicks off their series of autocross schools on April the first with others peppered throughout the year. So it’s not just a one-time autocross school if you want to get involved in that. Not only that B M W Car Club of America is also kicking [01:42:00] off their series of autocross schools on the 15th of April.

So check out both of their websites to see how you can get involved in that discipline in motor. As Brad mentioned, the Imrc is holding their eighth annual model car show after the Green Grand Prix, and the Green Grand Prix is in its 18th year and will be held on April the 14th, which is a Friday at Watkins Glen International.

I will be personally participating in it with my alternative fuel vehicle, and I’ll be live streaming from the track and throughout the event. So tune into our Twitch channel, twitch.tv/graham touring motorsports for live coverage of the Green Grand pr. We talked about legislation earlier. The performance racing industry, P R I, in conjunction with SEMA and others, is working to pass legislation that’s one step closer to law in West Virginia, especially at our home track of Summit Point, Virginia lawmakers are working to [01:43:00] support A P r I supported legislation that was established called the Motor Sports Responsibility Act, which would define areas of responsibility and assumed risk by participants for recreational and commercial motor sports facilities.

What this really means is it’s going to reduce. The liability insurance premiums, allowing racing venues to invest the savings that they’re getting for promotional purposes, you know, tourism, other things like that. Hopefully this will translate into cheaper track day weekends, not only for the organizers of track day events, but then the trickle down effect is that because the tracks insurance is cheaper by proxy, the organizer’s insurance should also be commiserate to that.

Again, hopefully making track day weekends a little bit more affordable since the prices have gone up over the last couple of seasons due to covid and and other things. So to learn more about that, you can check out performance racing.com for all the details, or check out our show notes for the link. [01:44:00] We talk a lot about EVs on this show and in the H B D E and club racing world.

We wonder all the time, are we gonna see more EVs at the track? Every once in a while there’s a guy with a Tesla, you know, they get about 20 minutes and then they gotta find a charger and all this kinds of thing, and they have a hard time being out there with the rest of us ice powered folks. Well, there’s three tracks in this country right now that are taking a major push into making EVs.

More accepted at the Racetracks, two of which we’ve run at many times in the past. V I r Virginia International Raceway and Limerock have made the list along with Button Willow being at the pointy end of the progress here to make sure that the tracks have more chargers available to folks that want to come and enjoy their EVs on the racetrack.

So look forward to more enhancements in the future coming from those locations, and hopefully more as we move forward with EVs in racing in the. The next H O D Southeast event is Thursday, April the sixth at Seabring. While hooked on [01:45:00] driving Northeast will be at New Jersey Motorsports Park on Saturday, April the eighth, and that’s a Saturday only event.

And we bring up these H O D events because we want to remind you that as a thank you to everyone that is a loyal supporter of G T M and a listener of Break Fix Podcast, Mike and Mona Arrigo from Hooked On Driving are offering a discount all season on H P D events on their schedule. So be sure to use Code Break Fix 23 to receive a discount on your event registration at Checkup.

So thank you all again for being loyal supporters of all of our efforts. Tune now through the year for more promotions and be sure to get up off the couch and get out on track. In case you missed out, check out the other podcast episodes that aired this month. We started celebrating International Women’s Month with Hannah Thompson’s episode on the history and evolution of the NASCAR Hall of Fame in Charlotte’s Glory, the NASCAR Hall of Fame in the Queen City.

We continued with our first all women’s, what should I Buy? Panel focusing on the new EV Carbu with returning guests, cat DeLorean from D [01:46:00] G Motors. Sarah Lacy from a Girls’ Guide to Cars. Carolyn Ford from Tech Transforms and GTM members, Emily Fox and Chrissy Crutchfield. Lauren Goodman took us back to the 1930s with her discovery of Racer and team owner, Lucy O’Reilly Shell and how she innovated motorsports in.

Dr. Cruz Lazo shared her study on autocross life skills and the women driver in her piece, real racers turn in both directions. Samantha Zimmerman is a fine artist specializing in realism with the breadth of her work consisting of automotive and motor sports subjects. She joins us from her home studio in San Antonio, Florida to tell us how she blended her passion for art and into a blossoming career.

And we’ll round out International Women’s Month with an extra episode where we chat with a third generation S E C A club racer Taylor Hyatt and her plans to get more ladies on track. Thank you to all the guests that came to the show this month. We’re so excited to be in our fourth season and every tuning in for the first time, you’ve way too many episodes to catch up on.

So just hang in there for more awesome new episodes, dropping each week on Tuesdays. And don’t forget to sign up for [01:47:00] our newsletter in the rear view, or join us online to continue the conversation and share. New Patreons for the month of March. We gotta give a big shout out to our newest Patreon supporter because I think Brad made him feel a little guilty.

So, you know, Brad, what? Well, you might wanna say thanks and apologize at the same time. How did I make him feel guilty? Thank you. Thank you. And sorry to Mark Hewitt. I guess Mark has been a loyal fan of the show and we really do appreciate, as he is quoted as saying, busting out the Prime bar and opening his wallet to help continue, keep the lights on here at Break Fix.

So we really do appreciate you doing that. Every little bit does add up. It really does count, and it helps us continue to bring you great content month. After month. Yes. And in addition to Mark and the new Patreons, we got some other shout outs, unfortunately no anniversaries in the month of March, but we do want to welcome back Logan Ellsworth.

You can ping him on our Discord at Lolo and stop by and say hello. And if you’d like to become a member of gtm, [01:48:00] be sure to check out the new clubhouse website@clubgtmotorsports.org to learn more. That’s right. And we don’t have any special guests, so no thanks. And of course, we do want to thank Tanya though for all her hard work on the show.

Always. And remember folks, for everything we talked about on this episode and more, be sure to check out the follow on article and show notes available@gtmotorsports.org. And to all the members who support gtm, without you, none of this would be possible. The annual two ends, alphabet soup, . I think there are too many letters in annual and not

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