Jana Schiffer: Sim Racer and Advocate for Women in Motorsport

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Lyubov Ozeretskovskaya: Hey, welcome everyone to Init Talks show. Welcome, welcome. Uh, today we got a special show because, uh, we got Janna Schiffer and [00:01:00] she is a DAC sim racing expert right now. So welcome Janna. Uh, happy to have you here.

Jana Schiffer: Thanks for the invite. A little surprise. I didn’t expect that. But yeah, I have some, some alpha news from, yeah, a special place, we’ll talk about that later.

Yeah,

Lyubov Ozeretskovskaya: sure. Um, so how do you feel about SimRacing Expo so far? How do you feel, uh, to be a part of this big SimRacing event?

Jana Schiffer: I missed SimRacingExpo last year and I was surprised after I saw what’s going on in social media and what’s going on at the event. I was like, hey, it’s just one hour drive. Why didn’t you like use the opportunity?

And, um, yeah, I, I, I, I thought maybe, maybe our team here where I’m racing, uh, sometimes in the winter, fall or summer cups, Maybe they’re there too, and they, oh yeah, we have a booth at the women’s area, [00:02:00] and much more, so. Join us and I said, Hey, I’m working flexible. Why not? I can have some So kind of I I think we talked sunday about it I joined on tuesday, um Wednesday I was here in dortmund.

We we built up everything. It was like super nice to see like, um Yeah, everyone real life first time just chatting or racing. Uh, what’s um You Yeah, like like it’s it like how it is when you’re working remote or have remote contacts or was super cool to yeah Sit and be part of it, especially.

Lyubov Ozeretskovskaya: Yeah, that’s great You know, i’m i’m so jealous actually because I miss this sim racing expo, but I think maybe i’m going to join the next one Um, did you get a lot of people already visiting?

your stage

Jana Schiffer: [00:03:00] Yes, yes, I mean, we are right next to the main stage and you can really see by a large banner on top, like, women’s area, I think. And, um, it’s like completely open, so, so people are walking around. And, um, Yeah, I was really surprised. I was, because we, we prefer like to open it for women and not have like the men dominate the space.

Um, it was really interesting to see the males driving. You see like they’re a little bit shy, never had contact because they come kind of as a non racer, just like to be a company with, with a group or something. It was cool to see. This was one part of the, like, first time contact with the SimRig, um, and, like, the other people who are, like, deep into the scene for 10 years or maybe less or more.

Yeah, a lot of people, like, um, [00:04:00] I would say, raise a leaderboard to, like, 20 plus players, racers joined, joined like the competition we are doing. So, yeah,

Lyubov Ozeretskovskaya: that’s nice. Uh, once you remind everybody that, uh, tomorrow you need to sports going to have a broadcast. So right here, uh, with race, which will happen in formal for it near Brooklyn GP in our racing.

And it’s going to be at sim racing expo. Uh, we’re going to stream it. Uh, it will happen at three 30 CST time three 30. Yeah, CST time. So we’ll see you here. Um, so talking about sim racing, um, when did you start sim racing?

Jana Schiffer: More interesting how and why? Yeah, so I think I, I, I, I, I made the full circle. Um, I was in, um, social metaverses around with my VR glasses.

So I tried to find like, what’s [00:05:00] the next big thing? What, what does the future look like? Especially in the pandemic, we all felt a little bit like going to a concert remote, like, it’s not happening anymore. I’m so happy about that. But, um, VR headset and I was thinking about what can we do with it. And I saw someone racing.

I was like, Oh my God. Like, it’s all about immersion being. Like, immersed into something, and then you’re sitting, you have pens, you have a This is, this is crazy good, good idea. And I bought like a super cheap, uh, wheel. No force feedback at all. I realized after I bought a better one. Um, but, um, yeah, it was my entry two years ago.

Two and a half years ago, I think. November twenty Two, I, I, mm-hmm . Created my iRacing account. Um, with my, the eyeglasses. I was immediately like super happy using iRacing. Um, I have all of the, uh, sims, uh, available, but, but yeah, my home is [00:06:00] iRacing. Um, and yeah, two years. And, uh, I, I don’t call myself professional, more like hobbyist.

Um, I don’t have any racing background. Never race, never been on a racetrack or maybe twice karting. The moment I, I tried it, I was immediately completely catched and hooked and I realized all the things why racing is interesting. Getting better, fighting for the thousands and milliseconds, and after you realize, okay now you can make it alone on a road trip, now start driving with other people, and yeah, it’s like for me, it’s all that most people already have, like, yeah, we know it, it’s like for me.

Just new experiences. And yeah, I think everyone enjoys [00:07:00] racing and knows what I’m talking about when, when I say good and interesting experiences. So, yeah, I can’t even say I had any bad experiences with racing. So super nice community. And, um, yeah, and even with, with, um, my first appearance in the. I was not good, but I was consistent, which helps.

So I was completely there all the time it takes and races. And I put a lot effort. I mean, for my hobby is a lot of effort in and. I think I made good for my first ever competition in sim racing I think I was six or seven of all so Not by racing super fast but consistent taking points for everything.

And yeah, no, it’s fun I enjoy it and that’s what what’s all about. I think in this community enjoying having fun Doing races, coming [00:08:00] together, having the benefit of one plus one equals two, uh, three, sorry, it equals two, but yeah, I wanted to say three. Um, and, uh, together we, um, yeah, um, can, can show, uh, there’s a community, um, that is doing something and, and build and grow into, into, um, Yeah, for

Lyubov Ozeretskovskaya: sure.

We’ve been talking about that sim racing community is really friendly, really, uh, like helpful, uh, to newcomers, which is absolutely amazing. Uh, so when I come to a racing with my big, uh, in real life experience, I also noticed that everybody like trying to help you, trying to, um, guide you through this way in sim racing.

It’s absolutely amazing. Amazing, and so I’m pretty sure that you played some racing games when you, uh, was young, uh, can you tell what was your first racing game?[00:09:00]

Jana Schiffer: It’s crazy, long ago, we are talking from 1987, it was a cartridge for a C64, like the first home personal computer, like they call it the bread box, um, and the cartridge, it was LeMond. A Le Mans game, but it was like C64, 87 around. So it was just lines driving a car. Again, I had no real life ambition into racing, not was it cars, not was it racing, but, but from the gaming perspective, that’s a good.

Kind of a view, uh, how, how I experienced it from the gaming perspective. Yeah. I saw NASCAR racing. I think 98 coming up calling make rate two was the craziest rally game I experienced until today. Um, so I saw one too, and I saw the [00:10:00] other Colin McRae’s and I saw like all this stuff coming in from, from, from my computer, um, kind of, and gave me, I try out stuff and want to see like.

What are they doing now with the tech? Is it better with the graphics? Are the physics getting better? And now, kind of, I’m not really gaming anymore at all, because I said I’m just wasting time learning a planet which was created to play a battle royale. Shooter on it or whatever now I’m learning racetracks and I’m learning kind of for me real life skills and like this dry sit swimming in the rig is for me like the best part into sometimes do it with a real car I think um.

I’m, i’m really like thinking about like it’s cool to uh, uh, Drive on on sim and and everything but it’s really not [00:11:00] Everyone’s goal. I assume we know we save money. We can crash the cars. We can trade and everything like we just have to huge benefit for me. No one would let me, but I crashed millions. So, uh, it’s good for learning.

And, um, yeah, we know, um, there are more senses on the, on the real racing. Um, you have like a much crazier experience. experience, much more pain maybe too, uh, but, um, uh, and, uh, but, but yeah, for me, for me, it’s like, um, in my mind, like in, in a few years when I think, okay, now we can, uh, try some hobby is, uh, racing, um, why not?

Yeah. Uh, so what do you see? Okay. Sorry, let me jump in yet. One good point, uh, one keyboard for me when you said, um, about the newcomers, [00:12:00] newcomers are welcome. When we talk about how good the community is onboarding helpful for newcomers. Yes. And I think when it gets more competitive, it’s always in sports, like you have friends But your competitors too, uh, and it’s not like, Hey, I, I, I, I, I set up your rake so you can race better against me.

This is happening for newcomers. You say like, it’s a newcomer. I haven’t set up. I give him my setup even because he doesn’t even know how to use this setup. So yeah. Yeah. It’s awesome.

Lyubov Ozeretskovskaya: Yeah. That’s great. And And also a really good thing that, uh, people who’s coming, who’s new in, for example, in a racing, they can meet people with the same racing level, and then they can go step by step, uh, develop and improve on track.

And this is a absolutely amazing. And what I also noticed, um, unfortunately as a race in [00:13:00] Asia, uh, we had quite competitive serious here. Uh, but I can tell you that, uh, You know, racing got more competitive people, like you’re getting into, uh, like top split in a racing and here’s a crazy fast people like every day, like just the daily racing, uh, they crazy fast and, uh, you always, uh, got a room for improvement and you always got a goal to, to go for, and that’s amazing.

Truly.

Jana Schiffer: On all levels. Exactly, exactly. And I, I, I can’t really talk about other sims because I’m not deep experienced in I, and I don’t want to, to only talk about iRacing, but from my perspective, the, the, the way how, how it’s structured with kind of the weeks, you focus on one car and one track, you maybe have like, okay, let’s try another, I have a mood today or whatever, but you’re really [00:14:00] focusing on.

weekly getting like based skills and Then when you go into the next cycle you build on top like oh, we are in okayama again. Awesome I’m now faster than last time and I really Saw like how how it’s growing on my side. I’m i’m not i’m not having high eye rating points Not high. I don’t care like I practice every day almost but But not even in races.

Like maybe one race a week. I’m so stressed in races. It’s unbelievable. I even brought up pulse meter back to look what’s happening. I was like, it’s going up to 140, 60 without doing anything. 60 in a rig. From 70. So it’s crazy. And yeah, what on the other side it’s excitement for me. It’s crazy. Seems to, like, [00:15:00] shake me in my whole body.

Lyubov Ozeretskovskaya: Did you find something, uh, to fight with this, uh, with this stress or are you just like, okay, I’m just going to live with it and we’re going to race or something like this?

Jana Schiffer: Yeah. Yeah. Just, just more experience. That’s my experience. Like I just told today, like, when I had my first ever race. Last time in the Winter Cup, my very first competitive race, I was sitting there, I drank maybe two Red Bulls, I think, I had a cramp in my leg, and then I go, no, it’s Red Lights!

And then I had a cramp in my other leg, I was, no, I need to race! This is like, I was completely wasted, kind of. I made it, I made it. And um, this time, I, I, the time I take 10 laps, I said a good lap, I was like on page one, I said. She’s [00:16:00] just chill and in the race It was okay. I was happy. I did one incident point in both races.

I wasn’t slow I was exactly in the midfield like four seconds front of me and four seconds behind me So I was just doing my easy race and was happy. I’m not Killing the race for the better and not getting killed

So, so it was really super chilled. I don’t have any pulse, but I would say it was 100 ish. If we measure it in pulse, in bpm.

Lyubov Ozeretskovskaya: Right. Uh, Kierkegaard. The

Jana Schiffer: experience, really, the experience is a comfort zone. Everyone knows like going into something you never did. It’s kind of out of your comfort zone. You immediately get a little bit stressed if you’re like that and um, yeah and Second time third and fourth time, you know it and as similar it’s for [00:17:00] races.

I was I don’t know. I think it’s Just going lower down The more you train, yeah, but it’s still there. I can’t say it’s gone.

Lyubov Ozeretskovskaya: Yeah, that, that’s awesome. Really. Um, like you, you in a race, you, uh, stressful sometimes, sometimes you feel like, okay, I can do my race. Like you, you got the safe bubble around you. Uh, that’s great to have always.

Uh, but yeah, sometimes you’re just getting into races where you go in. Like this to everybody, like really close and you stressful whole race, trying to hold this position, no mistakes. It’s so excited every time.

Jana Schiffer: Okay. Yeah. I’m out of this, you know, I’m, I’m, um, over like the first trouble you have, like, just keeping it on the road, like the very beginner.

And I’m [00:18:00] not at the point that I say, okay, I’m gonna get this on P1. I know. So, so even like, I’m trying to avoid the hardcore races because I know my heart will pay it back. I’m joking. No, really joking, but um, I’m not, I’m not rushing into hardcore getting the best. This is normally something which every school does.

For the enthusiast ones, like, to be the best, I’m, I’m joining, I’m doing, I’m doing a soft launch, I could say. Yeah.

Lyubov Ozeretskovskaya: Sometimes I’m just, uh, you know, trying to stop myself, like, okay, we’re just going to wait, we’re going to let go of someone, they’re going to crash, we’ll gain, like, a couple of positions. But yeah, sometimes it’s really

Jana Schiffer: hard

Lyubov Ozeretskovskaya: to stop yourself from like rushing or getting someone and you [00:19:00] just go for it sometimes.

Jana Schiffer: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I, I, I’m not, um, I’m not here for the competition at the moment. I’m here for the learning, for the learning curve until I can say like, You’re gonna see what you have when I race with you. May take some time, but yeah, enjoying a lot the learning phase, right? And you, everyone can say what they want, they have.

Sure you’re, we lock up, like you’re braking and like going into the corner. Yeah, I’m learning it. I don’t care. I can show you other stuff. Uh, you’d have an experience. Um, the life is full of so many stuff and interesting is like, I call myself generalist because I’m doing so much stuff and I did in my life so much stuff.

I was skateboarding for years, um, [00:20:00] on, on, on, on large ramps, like three meter 50 ramps. I did drop in and skated. I did graffiti, hip hop. I DJ’d a few years. I had a band, but it was all faces kind of. Um, I feel with racing, like it’s much more hardcore to get in. So it takes much longer and I’m super excited.

Still after two and a half years I go see still no path or ending of the tunnel like ah cool in two and a half years I mastered it I can go to the next one no there’s so much more As I said like if you mastered or AI at some point Competition you say like sim racing was just my training. It’s There’s another complete world, right?

Yeah. And I remember like a colleague, a friend called me when we’ve been in, in, uh, in the holidays at [00:21:00] the beach, like every day I wanted to do something like, let’s go jet ski, let’s go this, like, and I’m always want to have action. That’s why my discord is never boring. It’s never boring. It’s never boring.

Lyubov Ozeretskovskaya: That’s really cool. Yeah. You, you’re so, um, so positive. So, uh, dedicated about what you’re doing. That that’s great. Uh, definitely. Um, so what do you think? Um, is it, uh, possible for people now to jump from sim racing to real racing? Like, uh, how do you see this? Because, um, we, we definitely can see that. A lot of people, um, like jumping from sim racing to real sport and they compete in real sport as well.

Um, what do you think about this from your side?

Jana Schiffer: Yeah, um, I mean, I’m not at age [00:22:00] five anymore. So I can say like, okay, I push it from now and in 15 years, I can be competitive, competitive, like in the first league. Um, I started when most of the racers stopped their career, I’m 43 now, and um, I think sim racing is not a hobby for a five year old regularly, so people start if they cannot afford like or have like connections, family who are already racing and they are in from from any kind of their network or surrounding.

Um, what happens like Super often, I mean, even most of the sim racers in their, if they are not professionals in their job, they do something with racing cars or like, it’s like one large bubble, I would say many, many tiny bubbles, but, um, and it’s definitely the entry. [00:23:00] And, um, I’m, I think many people proved it already, uh, is away from sim racing, having a career.

Over many years in simracing, going into simracing, or, or, or, like, um, twitching, really, like, okay, I’m at a point where it’s like, I think I can make it, I maybe do a little bit of training, but, but I focus on real racing, it’s a thing, I, I, I, when I look, like, at, at YouTube, or, or stuff, like, I see it popping up.

Um, , um, Amida, I think, yeah. What was his name? Amida. Yeah. Um, he, he did like the, uh, switch to, to the radical. Mm-hmm . Um, as three, I think. Super cool. I saw one or two races of him. It’s good to see I as from a, from a, from a EXIM of perspective going the way, it’s cool that he [00:24:00] documents it. But he does, um, is, uh, awesome and other stuff too.

But um, yeah, seeing someone, uh, sim racing in NASCAR, uh, in IndyCar, it was in NASCAR I think. One, one guy, I, I’m not, was it William Byron? I’m not in the US, sorry for that. I am not into NASCAR, I don’t know all the drivers, but I think that I heard it at some race, that William Byron was a sim racer too and then came into, into NASCAR racing.

So yeah, it’s possible, why not? And especially possible for someone who started at age 14, 16, 20, who normally doesn’t have any career in sports anymore. Do what you love, be a super enthusiast, uh, and, and, um, enjoy it at some point. You, you, you, you have a choice. Um, do you want to go more into the direction or keep your job as, as your main income?

[00:25:00] Um, If there is an opportunity, are you getting an opportunity, are you building an opportunity, whatever. I always say like, If you think about something and, um, you, you, you, you, like, you build the future based on, on kind of your thoughts, um, you, you think about, Oh, what can I do tomorrow? I need to get, uh, my new wheel or I need to set up this stuff.

You’re already planning that you’re going into one direction. So your thoughts kind of, um, and yeah. I definitely agree, uh, that, um, there’s a way to transition from, from sim racing to real racing too.

Lyubov Ozeretskovskaya: Yeah. That’s a really good thing that, which you said, uh, about your thoughts building your future. Uh, that’s really.

Um, that’s also working on the racing track, uh, because you trying to think [00:26:00] about the next corner when you just coming into it. And yeah, this is how the whole life is working as well. Um, Can you tell me what is your favorite car in iRacing? As we’re talking about iRacing, you’re in the simulator, me too.

Um, my favorite one would be Porsche Cup, so what’s your car to go?

Jana Schiffer: Yeah, I went the classic road, Mazda, Toyota. And then there was a question, what’s next? Um, Toyota, I didn’t, I knew you need to be super fast and everyone is in one or two seconds in the end and it’s a different way to race. Um, I love the, um, BMW V8, uh, Le Mans, like the GTP car.

Um, I love it. Um, if I say like, am I competitive? No, it’s like for sure, even a larger gap than in the [00:27:00] other cars, but I can race. Um, like racing is not about being fast as I said, like be consistent or making mistakes. Like so many times you just like had a carnage and even like in the Morris, I was leading.

90 percent of the laps and then in the last lap in the hairpin I did like a full circle with my car and yeah

Fast cars. I love I love really the Porsche too. Um, I I switched after I did one season of Porsche to GT3 GT4s to experience what’s happening there. Um, And I realized oh Braking is so easy now because I have so many assistant systems in those cars You Going back to the person, knocking out words, and I was like, no!

Oh, that’s what’s about in the Porsche like you need to have a little bit more skill And yeah, I that’s what my [00:28:00] experience was like you have less assistance So more skill and the Porsche is really cool Um, and before I went here, I bought the radical as a 10 and I bought it Was flying through the Nordschleife because I had rear racing the Nürburgring.

It was a Yeah good, but Nordschleife, Nürburgring GP is okay, but Nordschleife I’m not really competitive So let’s get something going that you have fun trading some some Nürburgring and VW and Wow, what a car so much down for us Unbelievable I did like One evening of like one or two hours driving. I don’t know if it’s competitive.

I know it was somewhere between 8 20, 8 40 or something where, where I had the GT card, but this thing, I was 6 38 on the box. Like it was What? What, what be was something about six nine [00:29:00] different what? I don’t know what it did, but it was just flying. The kind was like, okay.

You don’t need to break here anymore? Oh, so yeah, this is how I experience it. It’s like, you see it like, um, when I’m talking about it. Yeah, it’s happening inside me when I

Lyubov Ozeretskovskaya: Yeah, you know, formulas, prototypes, they’re super fast, especially when you’re switching from GT cars, they’re like So crazy give you a lot of emotions and uh, yeah, you just can’t get into the corner.

You’re like wow I can break like a little bit and get into this and you downforce going to help me in the corner and I’m going to Get a lot of grapes Yeah, I absolutely agree. You know, uh, prototypes, specials. Yeah, you mentioned

Jana Schiffer: formula cars. I bought the Mercedes when it came out to just see like how is it, how is it to sit in a formula car.

Uh, I mean in a [00:30:00] sim, um, but I really love the the asian the super formula Wow, this is so much fun. I don’t know the differences. I don’t really know much. I know it’s Wow, for sure, etc but um I just, I just love it. I, I, I, it’s like, you, you, you, you, you, you, that cast you need to learn to handle and that cast, which kind of flow with you, your flow, breaking is what’s on point.

This is what I wanted. And how it means this is like, um, the experience I do because I’m not, I’m driving how the car is first because I want to learn the car when I’m at the point where I say, okay, now I know when I change this, I will feel it. I’m not at the point now. So I’m learning the car to drive as it is.

Someone did it like that in the set that [00:31:00] I’m not the best maybe, but. I like, I mean, I try out different setup, qualifying setup, but for sure, which is like hardcore for people who are in for like that, I didn’t dive into doing my own and I didn’t dive into researching what’s the thing. I just tuned a little bit on the, where I was thinking I can feel it, but normally not.

Normally not. I take it, learn it, how it is. And then when I’m on a level to say, I need to change something there faster than me, I’m not competitive. And I don’t know why it needs to be there. I, that’s the problems you get when, when you are at a certain level.

Lyubov Ozeretskovskaya: That’s a good thing. Um, So when people ask me, what advice can you tell me, um, can you give me in some racing, I always tell them like, you can start and stick with the one car, that’s the best thing to do, because you’re going to [00:32:00] be familiar with it, you’re going to feel comfortable, confident in it, uh, and then you can, you know, Switch to other cars and jump around them and try something different.

Uh, but when you’re starting, it’s a really good thing to stick with one car and just learning tracks.

Jana Schiffer: I, I have the experience and I want to share it. Same for sure. You want to drive the formula car once to see what it is when I flat it out or something like that. You can buy it, kind of, to have it in your assets of drivable cars, but it’s not that you can go into a season when you’re not mastered, like, with Formula 4.

Yeah, if you’re not fast in a slow car, then you cannot be fast in a fast car I know the the thing with sim racing is there are some people on the road. They can’t drive the car So you’re faster with just competing with them [00:33:00] Yeah, so there’s a mix it’s working somehow, but but but if you think real The slower car you need to handle perfect to get the best time.

If you think you’re faster than Pascal, it’s just because the car is much faster. It’s not because you are going faster than everyone else. It’s just like, you can take the corner with 250 instead of 120, that doesn’t make you feel higher. Yeah, I agree. So I’m playing around with this a little bit, and I’m enjoying it a lot, and um, yeah, nothing can stop me, kind of.

Lyubov Ozeretskovskaya: Absolutely agree. You have to go step by step from slower car to faster car, uh, because you actually building your base, uh, of your racing skills of your, uh, racing crafts and such stuff. Absolutely agree with you. Uh, in that, yeah,

Jana Schiffer: playing the devil, trying the hardcore class. Everyone [00:34:00] can do. I had the, I was explaining someone on the expo today, like, How, how can you get into sim racing?

How expensive is it? And, um, and I was explaining iRacing because I like it. And everyone might be shocked in the first moment doing the calculations. Like, okay, if I have all this stuff, oh, oh, oh, wow, wait. So much money, but no, you start with the Mazda doing, you buy one car because you decide, okay, I, I got the Mazda.

It was interesting. It was maybe not my thing, but I want to try the Toyota or the Formula car, but you go slow in it. And this is so cool. Like week by week. Season by season at some point you say new car Because you want to to to find something new but but you don’t put like 1, 000 on the table on day one or something.

It’s like [00:35:00] your subscription It’s your car and track if you want to try something special, but go just with the base content play play the stuff learn it and then

Unsubscribe your your music streaming or whatever and buy one racetrack per month so easy

Lyubov Ozeretskovskaya: Yeah, um right thing, uh about our racing because so many people also coming to my stream They tell him like wow racing is so expensive. And as you said we can start from like Free content, uh, right now we got a lot of free tracks, a lot of free cars.

So when I started iRacing, uh, we had only MX5 for the, for the rookie license, right now we got, uh, also Formal V, so it can start from Formalist or you can start from GT cars and, uh, build your way here. Um, that’s cool. You, that, you know, iRacing like, uh, becoming more flexible for everybody. [00:36:00]

Jana Schiffer: And that’s really, uh, Just realize it interesting mechanic when you then go a little bit higher you buy the toyota or But then you have the chance of like there are like two or three of the 13 weeks Are with free content and other is like You don’t have spa as free content because it’s like a car you need to buy But you have the three weeks or four weeks where you can play the new car with the free content Then you can go back to your mad stuff and free content And the next season you say okay.

I tried the three weeks. I want to make more. I take the whole season I need like four tracks, but I can buy them like in week three Seven nine and thirteen so It’s like, it’s, uh, not at day one, as I said, so yeah, simracing can be [00:37:00] expensive, but doesn’t need to be by a good rig, but a very cheap one, the difference, so.

Lyubov Ozeretskovskaya: Okay, so before we wrap up, uh, can you give advice from, uh, to new people in simracing, uh, So how can they start in simracing, like what equipment to get or like, uh, how to get into simracing?

Jana Schiffer: Um, yeah, my own experience, uh, several times in my life is if you Buy very cheap products you you can get in you can get a feeling of if you are interested in it when you when you then deep dive into the rabbit hole you realize oh wow there’s so much more behind the The very cheapest entry level.

And then you realize the benefits of it. I bought the cheapest meal I can get on the [00:38:00] day I wanted to have it from the supermarket around the corner kind of. And then I realized, Oh, it’s kind of plastic. It’s not feeling great. So what’s in it when I pay more and then I realize you get more forced feedback, etc, etc.

So maybe it’s interesting for sure this what I have is not really the end game. So let’s try the next And then I really realize it’s just like boosting you so much more when you have a good equipment But good equipment is entry level for everything I would say like 700 to 1, 500 ish, um, and, but then you can quickly get, go to 5, 6, 7, 000.

And the good thing is when you crash a car in a sim you don’t have to pay it, so your SimRig It’s pretty quick paid [00:39:00] off, so that’s how I explain it. If I decided to buy a car go racing, I wouldn’t have even the money for it compared to the Silvrig. So yeah, start with the money you have and enjoy and then grow from what you can do.

Lyubov Ozeretskovskaya: Yeah, so basically the same as you said, uh, go step by step with cars and the same thing, go step by step with a sim rig. That’s a great advice.

Jana Schiffer: That’s my path, my, my guide. I can recommend, there are other people who are grinding hardcore, everything what they do. I’m not that kind of person as I said, but yeah, if you’re, if you’re grinding hardcore, I know if you’re, when you are at some point in any, every spot, you have to keep it real for six, seven, 15 hours a day with everything you do.

So yeah. It’s always the same for [00:40:00] everyone.

Lyubov Ozeretskovskaya: Yeah. So thank you so much for taking your time. Uh, I know that you’re tired because you had a really long day at Sim Racing Expo and you’re going to have a tomorrow as well. Uh, want to remind everybody that we’re going to have a stream tomorrow at 3. 30 PM CST time.

So we’ll see you here on Ineed Esports channel. Uh, Jan, thank you so much for, for taking your time. I wish you good luck for the rest of the Sim Racing Expo. Uh, and we’ll see everybody on next innate talks. Thank you.

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