Name THAT Engine!

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Crew Chief Eric: Hey everybody, Crew Chief Eric here, and this week we have something extra special planned. Today, we’re going to play a round of Name That Engine. The game where the answers don’t matter, but the points do. Representing the red team is none other than our resident viking, the triple six, and your break fix host, Brad.

And playing for the blue team is none other than Mountain Man Dan. Welcome, gentlemen.

Mountain Man Dan: Yo, what’s up? Just here to be the morale booster.

Crew Chief Eric: All right, before we start, here are the rules. We’re going to be playing a sound anywhere from 6 to 20 seconds in length, and you’ll need to identify the engine associated with that clip.

Pretty simple, right? [00:01:00] Your answers don’t need to be exact, meaning that the specific year of displacement, any of those details about the motor, doesn’t really need to be part of your answer. But you need to at least identify the manufacturer and the number of cylinders. For instance, V10 Lamborghini. But, if you happen to know the specific make and model, That will definitely be the winning answer.

Correct answers are worth one point, and at the end, the player with the most points will be declared a true petrolhead and receive some GTM swag. Are you guys ready to play?

Crew Chief Brad: No.

All right. I think Dan glitched out. He’s just really calm. He’s using dial up.

Mountain Man Dan: All right. I am ready to fail at this miserably.

Crew Chief Eric: Excellent. All right, gentlemen, your first clue.[00:02:00]

Mountain Man Dan: All right. So my guess is going to be, first of all, it sounds like it’s an automatic, whatever vehicle it’s in. Um, sounds kind of similar to the newer Mustangs, but I don’t think that’s it.

Crew Chief Brad: Right. So, so Dan, you’ll say a manufacturer and, uh, and a, uh, like a cylinder.

Mountain Man Dan: I would say the newer V6 Mustang.

Crew Chief Brad: I, I think it’s, you’re ready for mine?

I think it’s the C7R. Wow. It sounded kind of deep and throaty, like a C7R a little bit.

Crew Chief Eric: It is actually a Mercedes AMG V8.

Crew Chief Brad: So, between the two, I went with the C7, but I could, I was about to say Mercedes, yep.

Crew Chief Eric: Especially because you mentioned that on a previous episode about how good the Mercedes V8 sound. I think I had to start with the good one.

Crew Chief Brad: Yeah, well they sound [00:03:00] very similar. They’re very deep and they shake the earth.

Crew Chief Eric: All right, let’s go with clue number two so far we’re at zero zero

You

Crew Chief Eric: All right, Brad, let’s go with you first.

Crew Chief Brad: I think it’s a Chevy V8. Probably it sounded like an LS Like a like either a 5. 7 or a six liter from a c5 or c6 corvette or camaro

Crew Chief Eric: Dan, would you like to venture a guess?

Mountain Man Dan: Um, the raspiness has me thinking something like a slp Which would go in line with what uh, brad’s saying for the gmba but at the same time Because the new dodge is when they first fire for that first couple seconds have that nice raspy tone, too. So i’m not I’m, not sure [00:04:00] so give an answer brad wins

Crew Chief Eric: The correct answer the correct answer is c6 corvette ls2 Nice, well done.

One point for Brad, still zero for Dan. You were close. So, we are good. I think,

Crew Chief Brad: I think Daniel should get half a point for, for calling out SLP. Cause, the LS1 and LS2 sound very similar.

Crew Chief Eric: Alright, alright, alright. I’ll give, I’ll give him half a point. That way he’s got points on the board. We’re at a fraction of a point there.

So, we’ll go with clue number three.

Mountain Man Dan: Oh yeah, that threw me off. Oh, come on.[00:05:00]

Crew Chief Eric: If you guys don’t get it, Judd gets the point. I

Crew Chief Brad: think I just messed my shorts.

Crew Chief Eric: All right, we’ll start with. Dan, do you have a guess?

Mountain Man Dan: Is that even an internal combustion engine?

Crew Chief Eric: Yes.

Mountain Man Dan: Um, okay then, um, I don’t know. I’m gonna have to pass on that because it sounded like some crazy electronic.

Crew Chief Eric: Would you, would you like, uh, would you like to use your phone a friend now or do you want to hold that for later?

I’m gonna hold on to it. All right. All right. Bradley. Would you like to venture a guess?

Crew Chief Brad: I think it I I think it’s a formula one car. I think it’s a v12

Crew Chief Eric: Oh Or

Crew Chief Brad: v10.

Crew Chief Eric: All right. All right. I’m not gonna make you guess the exact manufacturer.

Crew Chief Brad: It sound like a ferrari

Crew Chief Eric: Ding ding ding ferrari v10. I’m gonna give you uh, i’m gonna give you half on that one since I had to help you along But [00:06:00] you’re correct.

That is uh, ferrari v10

Mountain Man Dan: So I’m gonna have to relisten to that from somewhere else because when I played it on the computer just now It seriously sounded like some like alien Echoing type stuff. Yeah You got good speakers

Crew Chief Eric: All right, here comes Clue number four

Crew Chief Brad: is that Daniel’s Banshee.

He

Crew Chief Eric: does love himself a two stroke. Brad, since you guys scored the [00:07:00] last point, you go ahead and guess.

Crew Chief Brad: Uh, that’s gotta be a rally car of some sort, a four cylinder. I don’t, I don’t know the manufacturer though. Volkswagen? I don’t know. Hyundai?

Crew Chief Eric: Dan, would you like to venture a guess?

Mountain Man Dan: So, uh, I’m seriously thinking the audio screwed up on this laptop, but that sounded like a a jet dragster to me Which would be zero cylinder since it’s a jet engine on dragster, but the audio on my end. That’s what it sounded like

Crew Chief Eric: All right.

Crew Chief Brad: It was daniel’s banshee, wasn’t it?

Crew Chief Eric: It was not It was a rotary Mazda.

Oh, so if you listen to it again, especially that very beginning part where it does sound like a two stroke read weed whacker, when he takes off, you hear the turbo and everything. It’s an, it’s an RX seven. Yep. So that’s zero zero. All

Mountain Man Dan: right. Mine, mine’s definitely my audio is definitely screwed up because it doesn’t sound nothing like that.

So

Crew Chief Eric: he’s like, [00:08:00] he’s like one file behind me.

Crew Chief Brad: We are the worst petrol heads ever.

Crew Chief Eric: All right, here we go.

Mountain Man Dan: Yeah. Switch to the audio on the phone for that one. And it was a much better sound than the PC. It sounded completely different. That one I can actually tell was a vehicle. Yeah, that’s what I’m telling you.

Crew Chief Eric: Headphones make a big difference.

Mountain Man Dan: All right, well now. Just holding it up to my ear.

Crew Chief Eric: Yeah. Yeah. Do you have a guess?

Mountain Man Dan: That one sounds a lot like the, uh, it’s got the kind of deep tone, almost like the Fox bodies, but I don’t think that’s what it is.

Crew Chief Brad: It’s definitely something old school. It’s, uh, [00:09:00] I don’t know if it’s an old Chevy three 50 or four 54. I think it’s a four 54. But it does kind of have a Fox body feel. It made me think of your buddy’s Fox body that we just dino’d.

But I think it’s, I think it’s a Chevy big block.

Crew Chief Eric: Uh, you guys are gonna, you, you guys are going to, uh, enjoy this. It is a Chevy. It is a 350. Okay, but it’s not in a car. So I’ll get a truck It’s a pickup truck point if you can figure out what it’s in. Is it on a boat? Yes, it is

Mountain Man Dan: It’s a marine 350

Crew Chief Eric: it’s a marine 350 and a scare

Mountain Man Dan: The guard the gargling that almost sounds like the fox bodies.

What?

Crew Chief Brad: It’s because it’s underwater. So I get a half a point

Crew Chief Eric: you get a half you both get a half a point for that So congratulations. All right number six. There we go[00:10:00]

Mountain Man Dan: Some reason I think I’m wrong, but it’s got be, uh, the high-end rasp it like a, uh, Honda vtech or something like that.

Crew Chief Brad: It, it’s a four cylinder for sure. . Oh wow. Did I post the wrong one? I gotta double check.

Mountain Man Dan: Are

Crew Chief Eric: you guys sure it’s a four cylinder?

Mountain Man Dan: I never said four cylinder, but it’s got the high end ration.

It’s like a, uh, Honda with a fart can on it when you rev it up to the top end.

Crew Chief Eric: I, uh, do, do, do we, uh, oh, I don’t even know. Do, if we want to phone a friend on that one. Judd, are you shaking your head that that’s a no go for you too?

Brett Sonderby: I, I don’t know. I wouldn’t phone me if I were you.

Crew Chief Brad: I’d like, I would like to phone Eric. That’s a zero for both of you guys. [00:11:00] It’s uh, it’s an Alfa Romeo V6.

Crew Chief Eric: Negative, Ghost Rider. It is a Dodge Viper RT10.

Crew Chief Brad: Oh my god. Seriously? So you take my two answers, you combine them, and you got ten cylinders. 100%. Alright.

Crew Chief Eric: Next up. Here we go.

Crew Chief Brad: That’s definitely a Mustang, a Coyote Mustang, or what? That’s my final answer. ,

Crew Chief Eric: is that your final? Is that your final answer?

Crew Chief Brad: That is my final answer.

Crew Chief Eric: Coyote Mustang. Damn.

Mountain Man Dan: I’m honestly thinking, uh, one of the, uh, new Mopars, V8 Mopars. It’s

Crew Chief Brad: a GM. It’s a new Camaro.

Crew Chief Eric: A Fox body Mustang. That one was the Fox body.

That was the Fox body Mustang [00:12:00] with the H pipe and all of the stuff we’ve been talking about all these previous episodes. Can you believe that? That’s the sound of a Fox body.

Crew Chief Brad: So I had the car, I had the wrong generation. I had the car and the motor. Does that help?

Crew Chief Eric: All right, so we’ll go with uh, the next one up

Crew Chief Brad: wait Who gets points for that?

Crew Chief Eric: I I gave you guys I gave you half a point brad because you did say ford mustang But it what you didn’t specify the exact car, which

Crew Chief Brad: I said five I said five liter But I also I said coyote though.

Crew Chief Eric: Yeah, you said coyote though. So I gave you the coyote still five liter

Crew Chief Brad: Yeah,

Mountain Man Dan: okay. I thought coyote was bigger.

Crew Chief Brad: No, it’s bigger in the gt 350 I think so like a 5. 2 or something like that.

Crew Chief Eric: All right. Here’s one for you

Crew Chief Brad: That is daniel’s 1. 80

Crew Chief Eric: All right, dan, let’s start with you what is that [00:13:00]

Mountain Man Dan: We’re gonna go with the harley daveson most likely v20 of some sort.

Crew Chief Eric: That is 100 correct

Mountain Man Dan: Did

Crew Chief Eric: you tell the difference between a flathead and knucklehead and all of them do you know what era this is from

Mountain Man Dan: That one, honestly, would sound the most good.

Let’s do it again. See if I can.

Crew Chief Brad: Uh, that was a Harley Davidson. V, V, uh, twins, twin V twin.

Crew Chief Eric: I think you’re a little late on that one, Brad.

Mountain Man Dan: It’s definitely older ’cause I can hear the carburetor suck in air. So I would probably say probably like a knucklehead. By the way, the, the sound is

Crew Chief Eric: so at many, at as many bike people know that, especially the Harleys panhead, knuckleheads, uh, flatheads all, whatever.

This is actually a 93 Harley. It’s actually relative

Mountain Man Dan: the Evo then,

Crew Chief Eric: correct. You better have some Ducatis

Crew Chief Brad: mixed in here.

Crew Chief Eric: I got all sorts of fun stuff mixed in here. All right.[00:14:00]

Brett Sonderby: Can’t tell what it is, but it sounds like me driving. It does. Beating the crap out of it, whatever it is.

Crew Chief Brad: You can hear when it slides off track.

Can I venture a guess while Daniel is

Crew Chief Eric: Yes, because you are up next, so please, by all means.

Crew Chief Brad: I think it’s an Audi 5 cylinder.

Crew Chief Eric: So, I’m curious what makes you think that because you heard the Viper earlier, right? So five cylinders and 10 cylinders sound very, very similar. That that’s your hint that you’re wrong.

I’m just letting, just kind of let you know.

Crew Chief Brad: Brad, did you hear a turbo in that? I thought I heard a turbo. That’s why I was going that way. Let me listen again.

Crew Chief Eric: Dan, would you like to throw a guess out there?

Mountain Man Dan: I got a feeling that’s the uh, hold on my brain just [00:15:00] took it on.

Crew Chief Brad: Yeah Under deceleration.

Mountain Man Dan: I think it’s the vr6

Crew Chief Brad: Well, he hinted that it’s a v10.

Mountain Man Dan: So

Crew Chief Brad: it’s got to be

Mountain Man Dan: a v10 It is not All right. It’s hard to listen to this while i’ve got earbuds in so

Crew Chief Eric: so it’s going to be a little tricky It’s I was hoping you guys would say non vtech honda It’s actually a two liter Fiat motor from a one 24 or one 31. So if you really listen to it, it’s high, it’s a high strung four cylinder.

It also sounds like a Honda without VTEC.

Brett Sonderby: It sounded like a BMW 2002 motor to me.

Crew Chief Eric: Yes. All of that.

Brett Sonderby: Exactly.

Crew Chief Eric: Exactly. It

Crew Chief Brad: sounded like the Hans Stuck Audi to me.

Crew Chief Eric: All right, here’s the next one.

I think Brad should

Crew Chief Eric: know [00:16:00] this one. No pressure. No pressure, buddy. I mean,

Crew Chief Brad: On who?

Crew Chief Eric: On you. Like, this one, I’m thinking you should know the sound of this engine.

Well, it’s

Crew Chief Brad: definitely a turbo.

Mountain Man Dan: Turbo, banging a rev limiter.

Brett Sonderby: It’s not a turbo. It’s not a normal track car. It’s one of those skidding cars. What do they call those? Drifters! That or just somebody in the parking

Mountain Man Dan: lot doing a burnout.

Crew Chief Brad: That was such a boomer thing for Brett to say.

Brett Sonderby: It’s one of them skidder cars!

One of those people that drive slow but sideways.

Crew Chief Eric: Dan, do you want to guess?

Mountain Man Dan: Um, I don’t know. I’m gonna say like a Supra.

Crew Chief Eric: A

Mountain Man Dan: Gen 4 Supra.

Crew Chief Eric: He is correct. It is a 2JZ Toyota Supra. So Brad, unless you had something better than that, you [00:17:00] hit the nail right on the head.

Crew Chief Brad: Well he did, I, I said a 4th gen, which is the 2JZ.

Crew Chief Eric: Same car, yeah, yeah. Alright, there we go, we’ll do it that way then. Fairness.

Crew Chief Brad: I mean, that’s how we’ve been doing it up to this point, I don’t get it. Yeah.

Crew Chief Eric: So, so far, 10, 10, 10 rounds in. Dan has a whopping 3 points. And Brad has three and a half, so there you go. You’re leading by half a point, Brad. It’s a tight race.

Crew Chief Brad: It’s a terrible race. Right. This is like the Special Olympics,

Mountain Man Dan: the car sounds.

Crew Chief Eric: Dan’s like, I got this already. I’m good.

Crew Chief Brad: I’m going to go with Panos, Alex. Panos.

Mountain Man Dan: I’m going to have to go against you on that one, Brad, [00:18:00] because that one I’m going to say is most likely by the sound of the Cummins turbo diesel, 6 BP most likely.

Crew Chief Eric: Oh, I knew, I knew this was going to get you. It’s

Crew Chief Brad: a power stroke?

Crew Chief Eric: No, he’s right in the number of cylinders. But it’s actually a Buick Grand National.

Crew Chief Brad: Hmm. 3.8. Yeah. 3.8 Twin Turbo. That has such a diesel sound to it.

Crew Chief Eric: It does. And when it’s idling, ’cause I cut part of that out, it sounds like a V eight. So it’s a really deceptive car until you get on it and then you hear the turbo whistle and on Decel you hear that six cylinder sound and that, and that’s where it comes in.

So I, I had a feeling somebody was gonna say Cummins diesel, but yeah, it’s actually a Buick Grand National. All right. Next up.[00:19:00]

Crew Chief Brad: Are we really going to air this? Cause I feel like it’s going to kill all of our credibility as car enthusiasts. The

Brett Sonderby: correct answers.

Crew Chief Eric: Yeah. A hundred percent. So

Brett Sonderby: it’ll be a three minute video. It’s definitely from inside the car.

Crew Chief Eric: That is correct. But can you tell what it is

Mountain Man Dan: European is my guess Would you like to phone a friend on

Crew Chief Eric: that one?

Crew Chief Brad: How far off how far off am I I think it’s a four cylinder honda

Crew Chief Eric: ding ding ding ding ding that is correct

Crew Chief Brad: Really?

Crew Chief Eric: Yes. It’s actually a 99 Civic Si and it’s not Matt’s.

Crew Chief Brad: I know it’s not Matt’s because I can still hear after listening to it.

Crew Chief Eric: All right. Lucky number 13.[00:20:00]

Crew Chief Brad: What’s with that VTEC at seven, seven seconds. He found another gear. So what’s, what’s your, what’s your play on that one? What’s my play. I think it’s your Audi TT with the new motor.

Oh,

Mountain Man Dan: can I just say, because the amount of wind. That I heard. I’m thinking it’s a, uh, crotch rocket of some sort.

Crew Chief Eric: You’re, you’re close. You’re close. Does anybody want, so it is a motorcycle. I’m going to give you guys a hint. We’ll make this a little bit easier. It is a motorcycle. Would you like to guess again,

Crew Chief Brad: the GSXR 1000?

Mountain Man Dan: Nah, I don’t think it had a low enough tone to be a Jer. I don’t know. We’ll say I don’t, I I don’t know. Busa,

Crew Chief Brad: go ahead. What were you [00:21:00] just about to say? He’s right. No. Okay. It

Crew Chief Eric: is,

Crew Chief Brad: because I was gonna say it. It didn’t sound deep enough to be abusa. It

Crew Chief Eric: is a Honda CVX 1000 flat six.

So if you re listen to it, it sounds a lot like a 911, except for, like you mentioned, it has that really extreme VTEC sound because it’s doing like 15, 000 RPM, right? Once he gets it up, get it up on there. And Dan was correct. The extra wind noise. Uh pointed out the fact that it was a motorcycle again Like I said, some of these are going to be tricky, but it’s fun.

It’s it’s hard to tell them apart sometimes

Mountain Man Dan: Did I get a quarter point for knowing it was a bike? Can

Brett Sonderby: I get how many flat engines go that kind of rpm

Mountain Man Dan: this has turned into the uh bargaining show It’s it’s not about how many points we get right. We’re bargaining for points

Crew Chief Eric: I’m really curious to see what you guys say about this one.[00:22:00]

Crew Chief Brad: Briggs and Stratton?

Crew Chief Eric: Miata without a muffler?

Mountain Man Dan: No, I’m definitely thinking, I’m definitely thinking tractor of some sort, but I don’t think of Briggs and Stratton. I’m thinking that’s more along the lines of a Kohler. No, I’m thinking more like a older, like Farmall, Alice Chandler, Minneapolis Mullins type sound, by the way, the revving it up sounds.

Crew Chief Eric: Is it a gasser or is it a diesel? I wouldn’t, I’m not going to, I’m not going to hit you on the brand because there’s so many, you are correct. It is a tractor. I’m not going to hit you on the brand, but is it a gasser or is it a diesel?

Mountain Man Dan: Those are tough because it’s hard to tell a

Brett Sonderby: [00:23:00] difference on some of them, but I would they’re all low Lower compression on those tractors

Crew Chief Eric: for the point gas or diesel.

Brett Sonderby: Um,

Mountain Man Dan: I’m gonna say gas or on Let’s say diesel What’s the coin right?

Crew Chief Eric: All right half a point to Dan it is a Kubota diesel that was straight piped

Brett Sonderby: A whopping 41

Mountain Man Dan: horsepower.

Brett Sonderby: Actually, probably not. That’s probably like a whopping 14 horsepower. Right. 300 foot pounds of torque.

Crew Chief Eric: Now we’re going to test Bradley’s knowledge.

Brad, you’re

up. Do you have a guess?

Crew Chief Brad: Well, it’s definitely a race car. They’re at Road Atlanta. [00:24:00] I I think it’s the 9 11 RSR.

Mountain Man Dan: I don’t have a guess, but I have a question for, uh, Brad, you say Rhode, Atlanta, what, what makes you think Rhode, Atlanta?

Crew Chief Brad: Uh, the announcer said Rhode, Atlanta. Oh, I didn’t hear that.

Mountain Man Dan: If I had to guess.

Hold on, let me listen to it again.

Crew Chief Eric: You might have a, you might have a lifeline currently available

Mountain Man Dan: at that time

Crew Chief Eric: you’re on zoom.

Mountain Man Dan: Yeah. So other than other than I have nothing on. I don’t agree with Brad about being Rhode Island

Crew Chief Eric: though. Where it is not what it is. It is actually it was that so he’s correct.

It was at Rhode Atlanta. It was the debut Uh, of the Corvette C8 R, which I thought somebody would have said like Ferrari Challenge Car or whatever, because they sound very similar. So that new, what is it, LT1 that’s in that thing with the split exhaust, it sounds totally different than what we’re used to from a, from a [00:25:00] V8 Corvette.

Easily mistaken for a Ferrari these days. Uh, both in looks and in sound. All right. Next up. I feel

Crew Chief Brad: like we really need somebody that knows. What they’re doing to be on this. So we need Sam or somebody, not us.

Crew Chief Eric: This one is for your auditory amusement. You’re you’re listening. Pleasure.

Crew Chief Brad: C seven R

Crew Chief Eric: it is a race car, but it’s an, I’ll give you a hint.

It’s an older race car. One of my favorites. Not that that matters to anybody.

Crew Chief Brad: Oh, is it the Hans took out? No, there’s no turbo. It’s not the Audi. [00:26:00] One of your favorites.

Mountain Man Dan: This is just a test to see who knows you better on this question.

Crew Chief Brad: Uh, I’m going to go with Panos.

Crew Chief Eric: Eventually, that will hit.

Crew Chief Brad: Is it a rally car, or like an MSA type?

Crew Chief Eric: It is a prototype.

Crew Chief Brad: Prototype.

Crew Chief Eric: Yeah. Ohhhh,

Crew Chief Brad: it’s the Mercedes. The Mercedes prototype from Forza. I can’t remember the name of the car, but it’s the Mercedes. Does Dan

Crew Chief Eric: have an answer?

Mountain Man Dan: Panos. Ha ha

Crew Chief Eric: ha ha! It is in fact the Sauber Mercedes C9 from 1988. That is correct. So I give you, I give you, I give you the point on that one, Brad.

Mountain Man Dan: Definitely. Cause I mean, even when he said Corvette, he had C in there. So, I mean, he just had the manufacturer wrong. All

Crew Chief Eric: right, here we go. He said they are [00:27:00] challenging.

Mountain Man Dan: Uh, American V8 on that. Um, but I’m debating which one. So

Crew Chief Eric: Bradley, like while he figures that out, would you like to put in a guest?

Crew Chief Brad: Uh, I think it’s a Camaro with an LS three. So a 6. 2 liter Brett says no. As someone who has one, he would know or a coyote V8. It’s

Brett Sonderby: not a LS three. [00:28:00]

Crew Chief Eric: I’ll give you a hint. It’s not American.

Brett Sonderby: Yeah, it’s it’s kind of weird something weird. Okay I’ve listened to about eight times now,

Crew Chief Eric: so it’s an eight I’m just gonna say that it has it has eight cylinders.

Brett Sonderby: You gotta listen to it In the higher revs, that’s what’s more distinct and it revs pretty high. So it’s got a, I’m thinking exotic.

Crew Chief Eric: You all would be very disappointed to know it’s a four liter Hassat w eight.

Brett Sonderby: That’s not what I was thinking. So that’s how high, but how high does that motor rev that? Is that a high revving motor?

Crew Chief Eric: It, it, it’ll, it’ll spin up above seven for sure. I don’t know. Oh, okay. Actual red line off the top of my head. But most, it’ll

Crew Chief Brad: only do it once, but it’ll do it.

Crew Chief Eric: I mean, most, most vrs will turn 72 to 75.

So it, it’s, it all depends on how it’s [00:29:00] tuned. That one in particular had an exhaust, which made it easier to hear. But yeah, there is that distinct wooky sound in there that makes it very different. It’s just, yeah, I, I heard the flutter. Yeah, exactly. It’s very specific to the, the W and the VR motors, so. All right, here we go.

Brett Sonderby: I’m

Crew Chief Eric: hoping this one’s a gimme.

Brett Sonderby: I’d say there’s no gimme’s on this.

Mountain Man Dan: I’m going with, it’s a manual and they made it to third gear. What do you say?

Crew Chief Eric: He can confirm that it’s a manual

Mountain Man Dan: and they made it the third gear before the recording stopped.

Crew Chief Eric: It is not American. It is not a Miata and it is not a Peinos. I’m just laying it out there for you guys.

Mountain Man Dan: Did you say it’s not a manual?

Crew Chief Eric: It is a manual. It is not. [00:30:00] It is not. And so Dan put in a guess of. Oh, GK, Brad,

Crew Chief Brad: you put it in a guess of what

Crew Chief Eric: only God knows.

Crew Chief Brad: Only God knows. Um, I’m going to say a four cylinder. Hey, you said at the beginning we could name the number of cylinders and the manufacturer.

Crew Chief Eric: That’s hard. That is all that is required.

That is correct. Give it another listen. It is not a four cylinder.

Crew Chief Brad: Is it a BMW straight six?

Crew Chief Eric: But yet so far it is German. It is a Porsche flat six. It’s 2. 7 liters to be exact, but it is a Porsche flat six.

Crew Chief Brad: I hate this game.

Mountain Man Dan: Yeah. I, I struggle with telling the difference by looking at them, nonetheless, seeing like hearing them because my hearing shots are, they all sound the same to me.

Brett Sonderby: I think it’d be more interesting to hear. All the sounds from [00:31:00] inside the car where the exhaust doesn’t necessarily take over. I don’t know if that would

Crew Chief Eric: be possible. Certain cars are known for their exhaust note though. And that’s how they’re

Brett Sonderby: true.

Crew Chief Eric: Viable. Like you can pick out, you can pick out a three 50 Z from a crowd very easily.

You can pick out a flat nine 11. There’s a Honda without having to be in the car. It’s just. You know, how much you, I guess you pay attention at the end of the day.

Mountain Man Dan: I’m thinking an older engine for this one by the way it sounds.

Crew Chief Brad: You are correct. I think it’s an old Mopar Hemi. Like a Hemi Charger or Hemi Cuda? No, it’s not revving very high.

Crew Chief Eric: You are correct Brad in the number of cylinders though. It is an eight cylinder.

Crew Chief Brad: Am I correct on the manufacturer?

Crew Chief Eric: Negative guesswriter.

Crew Chief Brad: Negative guesswriter. Which one did you guess? [00:32:00] Mopar.

Mountain Man Dan: Is it American?

Crew Chief Eric: Yes, it is American.

Mountain Man Dan: I’m gonna throw this out there just to be off the wall. AMC. I

Crew Chief Eric: wish it was.

Mountain Man Dan: What’d

Crew Chief Brad: you

Mountain Man Dan: say? AMC. Cause it almost has like, some of the old Javelins had a similar sound to that.

Crew Chief Eric: So I’ll give you a hint. It’s a straight 8.

Brett Sonderby: Really? So it’s older than most everybody here.

Crew Chief Eric: That is 100 percent true. Packard. That is correct. It is a Packard straight 8, 327 cubic inch. Packard straight eight.

Brett Sonderby: 78 horsepower.

Crew Chief Eric: All right, let’s see if we can get this one. It’s been guessed like 10 times.

Brett Sonderby: Panos? Panos. You know, a lot of engines can go into Panos.

Fox body Panos. I heard something chirping.

Mountain Man Dan: Yeah, is

Brett Sonderby: that tire squeaking [00:33:00] in between shifts? Turbo blow off.

Crew Chief Eric: That is correct.

Crew Chief Brad: It’s the Audi five cylinder?

Crew Chief Eric: That is also correct. We’d

Brett Sonderby: get that right sooner or later.

Crew Chief Eric: As I said, you’ve only guessed it like ten times.

Brett Sonderby: No, I’ve guessed it once. Seems like more.

Crew Chief Eric: So what you heard, that chirping is the blow off, the flutter.

It’s a very classic 80s rally car. It happens to be the 1980 No, excuse me. Yeah, the 1989 Audi 90 ITU car. So Hans Stuck’s car.

Mountain Man Dan: That’s the one.

Crew Chief Eric: That’s the one. That’s the one. Well,

Mountain Man Dan: I’m sure it’s not on the list, but I’m gonna throw it out there. It’s a very distinct sound. There’s a video out there on the internet of a guy with a Subaru.

It has a duck call on the blow off valve. Very unique in between shifts.

Crew Chief Eric: Quack, quack, quack, quack.[00:34:00]

Do you guys want to keep going or are you done?

Crew Chief Brad: Let’s keep it rolling, buddy.

Crew Chief Eric: Alright, hold on. Uh

Crew Chief Brad: We need to get Brad involved in this. He’s got to give some answers. Yeah, we’re only up to like three.

Crew Chief Eric: So far, Brad has a commanding lead at a whopping seven points. Oh, wow. No, six points, my bad. Seven, seven points.

Dan, you got three and a half. You really gotta make up the difference here.

Crew Chief Brad: That’s a drag car.

Mountain Man Dan: Or it could just be a hot rod out cruise.

Crew Chief Brad: Straight it it’s, it’s a Cams V eight. Yeah. Push rod V eight. I mean,

Crew Chief Eric: magic eight Ball says all signs. Point to yes on that one. The question is, I’m leaning which of the [00:35:00] big three is it?

Mountain Man Dan: I’m leaning towards it being a big block by the tone of it, but I could be wrong ’cause exhaust can throw that off a bit, but.

I’ll go with a big block Chevy V8. I’m leaning towards that, but I can’t really nail down the fire and order in the exhaust sound

Crew Chief Eric: of all the things to like critique the audio for, right. I mean, I, we’ve narrowed it down to Ford. Chevy or Dodge and he’s worried about the firing order. I can’t tell if it’s got a K and N or not Different

Crew Chief Brad: it might have that MSD ignition system

Crew Chief Eric: All right.

All right. All right. I’m calling it. It is a dodge Charger 440 hemi. I said that I

Crew Chief Brad: heard it.

Crew Chief Eric: So did I

Crew Chief Brad: I said that like four answers ago.

Crew Chief Eric: You weren’t listening All right Here’s one for you guys. This ought to challenge your ears a little bit Oh,

Crew Chief Brad: like

Crew Chief Eric: the rest of the competition. I’m the only one who

Crew Chief Brad: hasn’t.

How [00:36:00] many points does Dan have?

Mountain Man Dan: Like a big three. Okay,

Crew Chief Brad: just checking. That’s all he needs.

Mountain Man Dan: I’m going to guess it’s an open wheel car.

Crew Chief Eric: I think Judd has like half an idea what it might be.

Mountain Man Dan: I knew what all of them were.

Crew Chief Brad: I’m just humble and quiet. Alright smartass, I call my lifeline Judd. Let me listen again, hang on. Yeah, I can’t stop listening to it, I think it sounds like sex.

Crew Chief Eric: I have raved about this car many times before. What’d you say? I said, I have raved about this car many times before. It has a very distinct sound, very high revving engine, but it is not open wheel.

Although it sounds like an open wheel car. It sounds like

Crew Chief Brad: an IMSA car.

Crew Chief Eric: You got to go [00:37:00] back in time a little bit.

Crew Chief Brad: So it’s just a Trans Am car?

Crew Chief Eric: Right in between. Different, different continent.

Crew Chief Brad: Oh, British touring car.

Crew Chief Eric: DTM.

Crew Chief Brad: Oh, did domestic touring. You’ve raved about the car. Is it German or Italian?

Mountain Man Dan: See, that’s the problem, Eric. If you’ve raved about it, I would have had to actually paid attention and not argue and I normally argue with you. So. I don’t remember what we argued about half the time.

Crew Chief Brad: Is it that Alfa? That Alfa Romeo, uh, 155 or whatever it is? Ding, ding, ding! Oh, no way.

Crew Chief Eric: Yeah, it’s the Alfa 155 V6 Turbo.

That thing, it’s incredible. It revs to like 12, 000 RPM, so that’s why it sounds like an open wheel car.

Crew Chief Brad: It sounds amazing.

Crew Chief Eric: Exactly.

Crew Chief Brad: We can I want my car

Crew Chief Eric: to sound like that. Alright, here we go, here we go. There’s only a few of these left.[00:38:00]

I think this is a pretty familiar sound. We talked about these cars on episode three of the podcast.

Crew Chief Brad: What was episode three?

Crew Chief Eric: What car should I buy?

Crew Chief Brad: Well, it’s not a Mark IV.

Crew Chief Eric: I

Crew Chief Brad: think it’s a Nissan 350Z. The MBQ? No.

Crew Chief Eric: No, no, no. It’s

Crew Chief Brad: not a 180.

Crew Chief Eric: It’s not a four cylinder. It’s not a 911. I wouldn’t put the same thing in twice, so.

Mountain Man Dan: That high end raspiness is what’s throwing me off as to what it is. Like in between shifts where it gets all raspy.

Crew Chief Brad: We talked about it in the podcast.

Mountain Man Dan: That’s like saying it’s on the website.

Crew Chief Eric: Yeah. The what? Nobody reads. . All right. You guys did.

Crew Chief Brad: It’s not A BMW.

Crew Chief Eric: It is A BMW.

Crew Chief Brad: Oh, so it’s E 36

Crew Chief Eric: 46. Oh, the bigger motor.

Crew Chief Brad: The 3.2.

Crew Chief Eric: All right, here we [00:39:00] go. Here we go. Here we go. You got

Brett Sonderby: one?

Crew Chief Eric: Those

of you playing at home, nailing your boat. Slater .

Crew Chief Brad: Brett’s winning because he didn’t answer .

Crew Chief Eric: If only you could earn negative points.

Brett Sonderby: Can’t be wrong if you don’t answer, right?

Crew Chief Brad: You win 100 percent of the contest you don’t compete in.

Brett Sonderby: Sounds like my Dodge van from 1982. I hear a lot of engine fan noise. Kind of a ticky sound.

Crew Chief Eric: I’ll give you a hint. It’s a flat motor.

Brett Sonderby: Yeah, we run into these a lot. Not a Subaru. So it’s air cooled. But there’s a lot of cooling fan sound. That’s kind of odd. Because all the air is sucking in. Yeah, but it’s usually not

Mountain Man Dan: that loud. It’s almost whiny. The fan sounds [00:40:00] almost whiny like a supercharger, but it’s not a supercharger sound.

That’s why I was saying it sounds like, you know, engine fan noise. Is

Crew Chief Brad: it a GT3 RS? Is it new? Like a 3. 6 flat six 911 GT3 RS?

Crew Chief Eric: No, it is, it’s older. It’s an older vehicle.

Brett Sonderby: Yeah, he said air cooled, yeah. Could just be like a 911 SC air cooled.

Crew Chief Eric: I’ll give you one hint.

Crew Chief Brad: Is it Shane’s car?

Crew Chief Eric: It is French.

Mountain Man Dan: No. They said it’s French, would that make it a Renault?

Crew Chief Eric: You’re close. Hey, what

Brett Sonderby: was the hint? I didn’t, I’m sorry, I missed it. The

Crew Chief Eric: hint is that it’s French.

Brett Sonderby: Oh. It is a baguette. Wouldn’t be running if it’s French, then. It’s a Vespa. It would be running, it would just be running away. So it’s a Citroen or a Peugeot?

Crew Chief Eric: He’s so close.

Brett Sonderby: Is

Crew Chief Brad: it Bugatti? No. Bugatti is French.

Brett Sonderby: How many air [00:41:00] cooled flat Bugattis do you know?

Crew Chief Brad: I don’t know of any Bugatti, so I don’t know. Alright, I’m calling it. It’s

Crew Chief Eric: a Deux Chevaux. Look at that! Judd’s got the sign up. How did you know? He just wrote it down real quick.

Mountain Man Dan: It was the logical answer, man. I was thinking it was a VW bug until you said it was French.

Well, I could tell it wasn’t a bug by the sound of it. Actually,

Crew Chief Brad: that’s what we’re doing.

Mountain Man Dan: The whole

Crew Chief Brad: thing is because of the

Mountain Man Dan: sound

Crew Chief Brad: of it.

Mountain Man Dan: I could tell it wasn’t a bug because the bug has a much more distinct exhaust sound than that. And I don’t recall the VW bug having that much of like a fan noise.

Brett Sonderby: A Volkswagen bug.

Air cooled would have had that sort of high pitched ticking sound a little more, but the fan noise was pretty loud. It sounded like a, like a V8 that’s running too hot where the fan clutch locks in and

Crew Chief Eric: I did post [00:42:00] Yeah,

Brett Sonderby: it sounds like another screaming race car. I can’t really tell much between these. Sounds good though.

Crew Chief Eric: Listen to it on the downshift. That’s the giveaway what listen to it on the d cell downshift.

Brett Sonderby: Oh, yeah, he downshifts twice Or lets off then downshifts.

Crew Chief Eric: It puts it into a category of very few cars from the 70s.

I’ll put it that way. With that type of sound. What type of sound? That, the sound we play. No, no, no, no,

Brett Sonderby: no. [00:43:00] He blips it twice at the end.

Crew Chief Eric: And that’s the giveaway, is the sound on D cell of that particular motor. It can be easily confused with another car that Steve McQueen might have driven, but it is not that car.

So there’s your only hint.

Mountain Man Dan: I’m drawing a blank with this one.

Crew Chief Eric: Panos. Sorry to, sorry to inform you. It is not a Panos. It is a Ferrari flat 12.

Brett Sonderby: Yeah. We run into those a lot.

Crew Chief Eric: It could be easily mistaken for the Porsche nine 17 also being a flat 12 in the same era. So specifically it was a Ferrari three 12 BB, the Berlinetta boxer.

So there you go.

Brett Sonderby: It’s like an 8 million car right now.

Crew Chief Eric: Uh, yeah, pretty much. Pretty much. So we’ll go with this.[00:44:00]

Brett Sonderby: There’s that sound. Furman used to have one of these. He put a lot of money into restoring it, too.

Crew Chief Eric: You’re close, Brett. Air cooled engine?

Brett Sonderby: Yes.

Mountain Man Dan: Definitely. I’m thinking either one of the air cooled Porsches, the VW Van, or Bug. Because, I mean, they use the same engine amongst all

Brett Sonderby: of them, so. Yeah, they all sound very similar.

All right, is it a four cylinder or a six cylinder? It is a four. Well, I wasn’t expecting an answer. I was asking these guys, but it’s a four. I don’t know. How would you differentiate this? I mean, it’s a very common engine. So would you differentiate from one car to another? I mean, you’re looking for the specific model.

Crew Chief Eric: No, no, it just, uh, we, in the beginning, we said [00:45:00] number of cylinders and manufacturer. It’s the Volkswagen four cylinder. That is correct. Specifically a 1300 beetle engine with the, with the little springs removed from the exhaust because it doesn’t have the whistle. Which is indicative of a bug. I love Judd holding up the signs.

Crew Chief Brad: It’s so good. Use your words, Judd. Use your voice.

Brett Sonderby: This microphone’s busted. I don’t want to

Crew Chief Eric: And this is the last one, as a matter of fact. Which is going to be a bit of a twist. So listen carefully.

Mountain Man Dan: Well, I’m gonna throw it out there because you said it would be in here [00:46:00] and it hasn’t been said yet, but awesome.

Crew Chief Eric: Negative a million points.

Crew Chief Brad: I think it’s your VR6.

Mountain Man Dan: No, I don’t think it’s his VR6.

Crew Chief Eric: Do you guys want a hint? Yes. It is British.

Mountain Man Dan: A Jaguar?

Crew Chief Eric: And 6, 8, or 12? 8.

Mountain Man Dan: I’m thinking 12. Ding

Crew Chief Eric: ding ding ding! It is in fact a Jerk 12 cylinder. Out of an XJS, which happens to be a manual, which I thought was really cool. And the guy is driving down a windy road.

So that’s where you get the nice shifting sounds through it. It’s deceiving because you might recognize that it may be as a six cylinder, but it’s actually a V12. So there you go.

So with that being said, I [00:47:00] guess sounds can be deceiving. I’m really kind of surprised on some of those where you guys are like, oh, that’s a four banger and it’s like really an eight or a five and you know, whatever. So that’s, that’s kind of interesting. I guess I’ve never, I, I don’t know. I mean, for me, I guess I’ve always thought it was kind of easy to pick out cars, but maybe it’s not.

Maybe it’s, Maybe it’s super deceptive.

Mountain Man Dan: So I guess that’s a challenge that you’re throwing out there, that we need to come up with some sounds to test just you. There you go.

Crew Chief Eric: Sure, man. Send it. I’d love to be on

Crew Chief Brad: the

Crew Chief Eric: other end of

Crew Chief Brad: the That’ll be part two, everyone. Oh, nice. Stump the chump.

Crew Chief Eric: And on that note, I think it’s time to end. I want to thank everyone who joined us tonight. Congratulations to Brad, who earns the title of True Petrelhead, winning for the red team. And Dan, congratulations. Better luck next time. Thanks again to our lifelines Judd and Brett for joining us tonight and helping out each [00:48:00] team.

And we hope you, the listeners, enjoyed the show and look forward to more episodes of Brake Fix.

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